Until and unless you have played against a grandmaster server admin widow you should not be allowed to hold an opinion about widowmaker
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Which is kind of the point? Sheās not meant to be easy to play. A character that can pretty much delete people with one shot is going to have some heavy drawbacks. Sombra, Tracer, Genji, Winston, D.Va, all exist so that she canāt just set up shop and delete people left and right.
Because those are her counters, asking her to be buffed so she can ignore those counters makes 0 sense.
Kiriko and Mei can contest her from range, but risk losing their heads in the process. And yes, shields exist, you play around them.
If she was meant to be easy, then everyone would be able to play her. Sheās a sniper, sheās going to be hard to play and sheās going to be countered as soon as people see her on the field.
Yes, if they peak you and are closer to you than 70m then yes, if they are farther away that can kill you in 2 shots and you can kill them in 2 shots too.
Like imagine a hero being built for close-range fights, can cut people off their team, can make themselves invulnerable, completely stun and slow enemies, deal quite the amount of damage, being tanky for the class she belongs to, and being able to contest sniper??!?!?!
Or being able to heal your team, remove debuffs from them, speed them up and make them shoot faster, also just teleport to them to save them in the last momentā¦ and can contest sniper on long rangeā¦ COME ON MANā¦widow is long range, you can not be better then her on itā¦
You can hide or avoid the line of sight but for sombraā¦ you cant do anything she will be next to you eventually, thatās why she is more annoying.
Why would you even be 70m away, you canāt do anything, idk what your complaining about, mei shouldnāt have fall off, widow needs it.
All mei is played and is able to do is walling off brawl tanks
So nerf everyone elseās capability at doing anything about her so widow is even more uncontestable and completely controls a map by herself, doesnāt even need to hit a shot just stand in an Los with no threats.
Itās not that you can, itās that your forced to hide behind a wall or else you get tapped from across the map immediately just for peeking a corner, for example try playing Ana on colosseo where you literally canāt peak the corner to help your team without the threat of widow just jumping around a corner and killing you
from the opposite side of the colosseum it is horrific character design that shouldnāt be in ow, keep that shi in battlefield.
Playing as a team actually makes sombra basically ineffective, although someone sitting in narnia wouldnt get that, thatās why I say if you do have a brig with you your unkillable to sombra.
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This is the feast/famine nature of her design. Sheās been consistently played over Hanzo in many eras of Overwatch purely because hitscan 1shot is so amazingly powerful compared to trying to land a 1shot projectile headshot.
When SOjourn got added to the game they basically made the perfect Widowmaker. A hero who has a bunch of utility and has enough 1shot potential to carry games.
In order to properly balance Widowmaker she would really need to come away from her hitscan identity into projectile or lose her consistency on headshot and buff her kit in other ways.
Iām all for removing her 1shot making her a sort of hitscan Hanzo, but she needs to lose the 1shot before she can get any more power into her kit to lower her skill floor.
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I suspect and hope for buffs in S13. The devs teased that Havana and Circuit Royal will get a rework in this season. Im pretty confident that Widow will get buffs because of that. Alec Dawson said in a Interview with Spilo, that they are pretty happy with Widows current state, that she is very good on some maps but also bad on other making it balanced. If the change of two of her best maps result in her being worse on those (which is most likely) the devs will be forced to buff her.
What I wish they did is to tighten her SMG spread and drastically reducing the sound her Heals make. Its ridiculous that a Tank is more effective at sneaking then a lightweight DPS whos profession it is to be stealthy.
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No.
She can headshot and kill enemies that easily with practice.
She does NOT need buffs.
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Sombra being a hard counter and shields existing is why her oneshot is still in the game.
She gives up the oneshot and sombra can be nerfed as her counter.
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Because I maybe canāt be invulnerable, heal myself and really escape if Iām in the fight. She is 3rd hero with the lowest hp and yet she is forced to play on the field she is not really made for. Mei is close range, and sniper is long. Mei would not be able to win that this easily.
There is something called close the distance. Reaper, Tracer, Sombra, Lucio, Ball, Winston, Dva, Venture, Doomfist,ā¦ She canāt even kill ball even if she tries 
on 70m or less.
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There are barely a handful of points in the entire game that have a 70m sightline.
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And on these the āsuperiorā points for her she can get 2 tapped by close range heroā¦ Does anybody else see how unfair this is?
Like first point Havana from spawn. Literally made for Widow how long it is. Iām peaking from spawn and my hero gasps instantly because she is lowā¦ who shot me? Do they have a Widow, a Hanzo, Asheā¦ Kirikoā¦ Damnā¦ I need to 2 tap her (she is Support) she needs to 2 tap me (Iām DPS)ā¦ Overwatch 1 was fair regarding this, but Overwatch 2 seems less rational.
Lol widow needs buffs? Not a chance. Sombra needing a hefty nerf? Big yes to that.
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I saw like 70 posts of people just crying for Sombra nerfs and yet she is not even touched. In every game I play there will be Sombra in one moment, regardless if I play Widow or not.
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The honest truth is that nobody cares. You arenāt going to get much sympathy for your woes as a Widow main when sheās one of the most oppressive characters in the game that on a handful of points is on āevenā footing where she has to deal with the same unfun interactions she imposes on the rest of the cast on every other point.
And I say āevenā because itās significantly easier to land shots at that distance as a hitscan than as pretty much any projectile hero.
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Sombra is just that busted, shes literally everywhere. It doesnāt matter what hero you play. The second she initiates spawn camping, itās a miserable experience. It takes only one kill that I get as hanzo and they instantly go sombra. Hanzo cant even one shot anymore and people crutch on sombra for literally anything. Playing cassidy? They go Sombra, playing junk? They go Sombra, playing ashe? Echo? Pharah? Bastion? Oh wait, they go sombra. Im so tired of sombra I honestly feel disgusted to the point I donāt even wanna play anymore. Ill take a widow over sombra any day. At least you can see a widow and dive her.
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Making an unfun annoying hero better is not in anyoneās best interests.
She needs reworks to balance her properly across ladder not nerfs.
Though nerfs sound appealing given how sombra mains approach the topic to make their hero actually viable across ladder.
Just because you suck at Widow doesnāt mean the game should be reworked around you lmfao
It doesnāt take a Dive hero to kill you either, apparently.
Get good.
This is a lost dream
At this point Sombra and all the characters she keeps in check getting reworked sounds like a Christmas miracle. Can you imagine a world where Sombra, Doom, Ball and Widow werenāt such miserable characters to play into?