I think we can all agree that currently bastion is the weakest hero in the game.
He seriously needs buffs, tweaks, bug fixes, and less counters.
Here’s some problems with bastion when in and out of turret mode, with every single hero
Ana - Sleep darts you so your team can follow up on the kill with bastion, snipes bastion from across the map, OR uses nade to prevent pocketing which is basically instant death with bastion
D.va - Uses matrix in your face so team can follow up and kill the bastion, has enough health to absorb damage so red team can just kill you.
Doomfist - Bastion is pretty good against doomfist (Though doomfist easily can play around him and pick bastions pocket. Also reks bastion when he’s in recon, overall tho bastions OK against him.
Genji - Deflect in your face, good genjis will time it right so bastion gets melted, Also bastion has to stop shooting for 2s, giving time for the team to kill the bastion
Hanzo - Peeking with his primary OR 1 clipping him with storm hero.
Junkrat - Spam on the barrier, or in his face, melts bastion hard.
Lucio - Can use speed boost for the team to get in bastions face, or dances around him when bastions in turret.
Mcree - Flash fan and good ranged damage to kill the bastion.
Mei - Now that mei has no falloff it’s easier for mei to kill bastion (another sniper, RIP bastion), also a freeze to follow up on killing the bastion. her ult reks him as well.
Mercy - Not really much wrong
Orisa - If a bastion is alone the orisa will kill the bastion, with a full hp shield, Might need a fortify if low. also with the shield gives the team time to followup on killing the bastion
Pharah - Reks bastion when she’s really high by spamming rockets behind the shield, also her ult destroys the whole comp and usually gets 3 - 5 kills when running bastion comp.
Reaper - Not really a problem because he’s bad as well right now, part of the F tier gang. However can dance around bastion and melts him, unless the bastion can track him.
Reinhardt - GOD DANG PIN!!! Also has a shield, giving the team to followup on killing bastion.
Roadhog - Basically if you hook a bastion hes screwed, and screws up the whole bastion comp. Also has high burst damage at close range + lots of health giving the enemy team time to push in on bastion.
Soldier - Has pretty dang high burst damage, good when following up on a push on the bastion.
Sombra - Literally destroys bastions, hack ruins everything ESPECIALLY her ultimate.
Sym - Spam orbs and turrets in his direction , the turrets gives the team time to push in while he’s distracted, also can peek with orbs.
Torb - Peek with primary fire, turret gives bastion a distraction, Armor which doesn’t help, secondary fire that has really good damage (similar to reapers)
Tracer - God dang pulse bomb, and just spams him down with guns (to farm another pulse bomb lol)
Widowmaker - Oh god, I hate her, literally snipes you across the map without trying lol. Easy kill for her.
Winston - Bastion counters winston
Zarya - Easy charge off the bastion, then spam/peek with secondary fire
Zenyatta - Discord bastion, let the team follow up on it, also deals really good damage to the bastion.
Now I don’t want him to have 0 counters but he has wayyyy too many, and I think that’s his current problem, Here’s a some changes I think are really needed:
- Make him how he was in beta Overwatch Beta: Bastion Gameplay! - YouTube
except a few changes
- Shield HP reduced to 350
- Spread reduced in recon and turret form
- Faster Transformation when entering and exiting turret form.
- Rein no longer kills bastion with charge, instead it works how doomfist rocket punches, it just stuns.
- can do a full 360* turn in turret mode, except shield only stays in front of bastion.
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I’d just give the bot more health honestly lol thats his main issue he dies quickly and has 0 mobility.
Maybe allow him to move in tank mode or give him some flight abilities, lord knows Pharah could use another hard counter that’s not a sniper or a spamzo.
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He needs SOMETHING. The hitscan buff was nice but he needs more. This forum is filled with dozens of good suggestions that are worth testing.
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He NEEDS…to stay where he is. Seriously, Bastion is fine.
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Yep just leave him as the weakest hero in the game and not even hit 0.1% pickrate.
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Bastion needs to get a rework, I saw many good suggestions made by Bastion players let’s hope Blizzard wouldn’t ignore those like they did with Mercy Sombra and Symmetra
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Try joining the games I play. He’s everywhere. And he’s an annoyance.
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Well he isn’t, because he has a 0.08% pickrate
What rank are you? I won’t judge 
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I’m a dirty casual who plays for fun. -prepares for judgment-
Think again.
You sound like a troll.
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He’s extremely easy to counter
No actually, you sound like a troll
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Bastion:Worst hero in the entire game
Never forget the dwarf you swine!!
But seriously I do think bastion could use some help cause in any organized team he is basically ult charge if his team isn’t greatly protecting him,
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I know. I said he’s everywhere in my dirty casual games, I didn’t say Im having trouble with him.
Bastion is kind of like Widowmaker, in good hands he can be a problem, and if ignored he’s an even bigger problem. And when he’s teamed up with Orisa and has a Mercy pocketing him, we might as well surrender!
But if someone switches to a hero who can take him out before he goes through all his bullets, then the Bastion isn’t a problem anymore.
If a player takes advantage of the map and work with their team mates, Bastion can be a huge asset to his team. But if he goes in thinking he’s the best without these in mind, then yes, he can be weak. Should we reward poor judgment with a buff for Bastion? No.
Seems you all thought you could have a Bastion thread without me…
WELL, Bastion’s problem isn’t really his health… It’s the lack of damage (Where it needs to be.)
As a good friend of mine has figured out, Bastion has a Maximum dps of 450, if EVERY Pellet hits something… How often does that happen?
[Bastion's real damage output (kinda)]
THIS^ Is the problem.
When a Hanzo jumps towards you, ducks behind the corner five feet from your face, and spams arrows knowing he cannot die no matter what you do.
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Should we reward good tracking with headshot damage? 
Yes.
As that’s how EVERY HERO WORKS.
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Bastion
- Get’s to be able to heal while shooting
- Spread is reduced from 3.00 to 2.00
Comment: Out of turret form, Bastion is pretty useless, since he doesn’t have any protection like Ana and needs to keep it going. Minimizing the spread and giving Bastion headshots back would let him kill enemies with mobility in turret form.
This is all he needs literally.
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No you do. Have you seen Torbjorn? He’s never been meta.
A lot of the counters you listed could be solved by positioning alone. Not to mention that many of the situtions imply that you are trying to 1v6 the team as bastion.
The one that jumps out to me the most is Orisa. If you can’t kill an Orisa with bastion, then you need to pick another hero to play. He is one of the few heroes that can destroy her shield before the cooldown, and even with Fortify she is fodder.
But again, it sounds like positioning would solve most of your Bastion woes.
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Then why is he used basically never and when he is it’s never outside of pirateship?
Annoying isn’t a reason to keep a hero bad. Tracer is annoying, but she’s also super powerful. Bastion is annoying, but isn’t super powerful.
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