It basically makes her a crappier Roadhog.
A hook that doesn’t actually hook and abilities that are all mutually exclusive to her 850 HP.
Oh you are just a treat.
you don’t even know the point we are arguing.
you literally cant understand this sentence apparently because you tried to put a straight up buff to attempt to counter this point. Like what?
I suppose, but it’ll make things fair? It is a projectile hit/whip but enough range to make tracer stay out of range.
Though I could see the potential problems since tracer will never stay in one-stop too long, Genji probably still be hit by it though.
That is why I am trying not to get attached to her too much cuz she will most likely end up like doomfist.
You mean tracer and genji
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If Roadhog isn’t enough to do that, then how do you figure Roadhog Lite would manage it?
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The reason this happened
McCree
Peacemaker
Primary Fire
Damage falloff range decreased by 10 meters
Damage falloff amount is unchanged
As a result, even with this change, McCree’s effective range is still higher than it was at launch
Alternate Fire
Rate of fire increased by 15%
Flashbang
Recovery time (i.e. the amount of time before McCree can fire again) decreased from 0.5 seconds to 0.35 seconds
Was because this happened in the previous patch
HERO BALANCE CHANGES
McCree
Peacekeeper
Alternate Fire
Recovery time (i.e. the amount of time before McCree starts reloading) decreased from 0.75 seconds to 0.3 seconds
Bullet damage decreased from 70 to 45
That would be a nerf to McCree in the first patch of the live game, and a buff to McCree in the second patch of the live game.
The only thing I can think of where you would miss this information is if maybe you haven’t played the game since release. If so, I wouldn’t argue about things you do not have the experience or fact finding to figure out.
so what your saying is (like I said before) when he got nerfed, he didn’t receive a buff with it, but later received a small buff because they overnerfed him.
whats funny is in the “buff” they decrease his bullet damage by almost half.
So even in his “buff” he got nerfed. its like the reverse support treatment.
Remember when everyone on these forums said junkrat was balanced and you just need to get good? Well the irony is that junkrat still outperforms McCree in winrate, so get good
People still think she will be nerfed?
This isn’t going to happen.
Torb and Sym also has second and third place in winrates.
He was also fifth in pickrate, coming in below at Tracer/Genji/Soldier/Mcree. Whatever irony you’re trying to prove is also mute considering that swapping off is also a thing, which adds into the winrate.
Edit: Those stats was also at the time where he was strongest, now? He’s barely there in GM now.
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Crazy thing is that Tracer nor Genji are actually hurting for use.
Neither of them were all that popular outside of Master/GM, and they’re absolutely fine at those ranks.
Really, the main problems are with Zen, Mercy, Rein, Zarya and Hanzo. Their pickrates are too good–it’s not that other heroes’ pickrates are bad (except for heroes with clear problems like Bastion, Sombra and Reaper).
You argue against yourself.
I said
(Paraphrased)
“Supports are the most net nerfed group in the game.”
You argue that
(difficult to pin down but i will give it a go)
“DPS are always nerfed, and when they get nerfed there is no replacement for skills, or damage, or feelsgood in their buffs, which they never get.”
You are correct that supports do normally get things to replace what was nerfed. But if you haven’t played them when these things happened, or have not read the patch notes and taken into account the effect it had on the support then you are arguing semantics.
After all that, I pointed out the whole McCree thing. Which was very early in the game. I could continue to quote patch notes and show you how the net buffs Damage Dealers have been getting the past 2 years, which I experienced as I am a launch day player, have been vastly better then any replacement buff the supports have received.
I can tell you that she surely didn’t stop ppl from picking them in lower tiers especially genji.
While I cant speak for Rein and Zarya since Hanzo/ Brig is helping them, Mercy still being quite strong and may need a look.
Zen’s the weirdest spot in the sense that he can be pretty oppresive but the massive amount of weakness he has offsets it.
I kind of want to say to maybe look at his trans but I can’t really come up with another answer beyond, Blizz need to introduce another team-saving ult or buff Lucios one.
yes and I said that you have to take the buffs that come in with their nerfs into account as well. saying that this doesn’t happen to dps, so overall they aren’t.
then my point has been made.
Good. We can play ow again then.
When you take everything out of context, then yes, your point has been made.
You are not worth my time. Have fun.
Just rework Mercy, but this time actually addressing her problem and not slapping another bandaid to her stab wound.
No amount of nerfs will solve Mercy without making things worse. Rez needs to be an ult, because its too powerful to be on an E ability.
But it’s all ok! Because next we have a…Hamster!! 