Brigitte is Orisa tier

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She’s more of a melee offensive character than Reinhardt is (she needs to hit things to heal people after all). Melee characters are very hard to balance.

Like, Genji is over-bloated and so flexible that he’s lowkey OP. But removing the bloat over-nerfs him and he has the loudest/most populated fanbase so obviously that’ll be the start of the apocalypse.

Then we have over-nerfed but not properly compensated Doom/Brig who are OK if used 100% properly and have the proper comp to support them. So they can be useful, they just can’t screw up and are more reliant on their team than they should be for a proper stand-alone-balanced-Hero.

Doomfist needs a weapon revamp at the very least to make up for how dependent he is on melee abilities that don’t reset. Yes, I’m throwin’ shade. It can be a number of ways, but giving him a long 1.8 second reload animation is a good way since it leaves him vulnerable and is slightly shorter than waiting the full passive reload duration.

Brigitte needs less vulnerability because despite being a healer-tank hybrid, she’s still as easy to take down as any other healer. Just she has a big hurtbox, so even easier from afar.

She needs some or more of the following:

  1. Def buff for when she’s vulnerable during Whipshot’s 1-2 second long animation. That can be done with a -X% damage received buff or by speeding up the animation/traveling speed by 50%. For sure add +5 damage since it’s already a much worse Fire Strike as it is, may as well give it Fire Strike damage.
  2. Allow Shield Bash to activate her healing or give her some damage back. 5 damage for no healing activation as a compensation is garbage. 5 damage for the type of conditional stun (must have shield, thrust self into the enemy, only 1 enemy, -2 seconds compared to McCree’s AoE stun) is garbage as well.
  3. Slightly bigger shield so it can actually cover the front of her. It already breaks incredibly easy with the 500hp it has, so increasing the size doesn’t do much beside allow her shield to actually do its damn job.
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Not really. Brigitte can only be run in one comp in high tiers, playing her outside of GOATs is throwing.

People in GM usually aren’t willing to lose on purpose just because there’s a Brigitte one trick and they don’t want to play GOATs… so they play GOATs.

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Yeah so the order is backwards, but essentially if you read it from bottom to top you should get it.

Anyway,

“No we don’t, stop putting us all in the same box”
procedes to say they force their pick on every team

That’s a big thonk right there

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And people will still blame her for the Goats of today, no doubt demanding more nerfs.

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i disagree with this, I play with brig on diamond on 2 - 2 - 2 and can carry teams…

People want to play goats because its the best thing to play if you want to win…not because of brig one tricks…

i was refering to…You know…Im already playing the hero, in a random match, then that…

Whats with you people trying to make all sym / torb players like one tricks?

Just like LITERALLY ANY OTHER HERO

i pick the hero, then i play, if you want to work together good, if you dont, its fine, i can still play without teamwork

you know

like literally the entire rest of the cast, in almost every quickplay match

if im lcountered, i pick something else

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I think the point is just the fact you’re just not helping your own argument here by doing exactly the thing you say not all people do.

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I do too, hun. But that’s not GM.

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You guys do know im talking about quickplay right?

where everyone literally does the exact same thing with all the other rest of the cast…

i just dont play sym or torb in comp because everyone reports people who play those heroes for that exact mindset “ooh you force us into playing arround you”

Dont do it if you dont want to, i can still play the hero without everyone pocketing me lol

all you need is basic teamwork, the same for any hero

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I’m still trying to rock my brig :confused:

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It’s ok. I only think they’ll nerf her a couple more times after this patch

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I did kill a guy in a game…sorry guys I ruined it for everyone

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OMG that Brig killed me one time. why does that hero even do damage? Supports are only for heals NERF HER REEEE

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Considering the conversation, from what I could tell, was about Comp and abusing SR before you jumped in and gave 0 context to your personal shift in focus… No. It is literally impossible to tell that you decided to talk about QP all of a sudden.

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A clear sign of bad hero design, if she’s so bad as you say across the board, then maybe, just maybe her current iteration shouldn’t exist anymore.

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i mean even if it was comp, this is what i cannot understand,

You play sym / torb / bastion / Brig / Etc without your entire team pocketing you and working completly arround you = THROWING

“You are a filthy ONE TRICK that is DRAGGIN THE ENTIRE TEAM DOWN, you are RUINING THE GAME”

you do the samewith literally the rest of the cast…and thats fine dood…

Why do people struggle understanding that these heroes can be played without OWL level teamwork?

Sure, Theirunderpowered, Even in their reworked state, But you dont see people claiming the same for other UP heroes,

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Pretty big response from a valid point made in context.

Adding more details after the fact changes the narrative.

If you’re countered and you swap that’s great, but unfortunately that’s not in relation to anything else being said in my part.

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How dare you.

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Yeah nerfing any hero 9 times should still make them somewhat viable otherwise it’s poor design!

/s

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More like

“oh this hero is in a bad state, Lets delete them inestead of buffing them, because i dont like them”

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People are still scapegoating brig for why they lose games so until they wake up she’ll never be treated fairly.

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