Putting resources into esport while completely neglecting the game is not ok.
Idk about you buy I payed to play a good game, not to watch a mediocre esport.
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the community isnât a single hero that countered an entire comp.
the community didnât bring the game to itâs knees for another year just 1 season after Mercy had the game on itâs knees.
the community isnât the stupid amount of mitigation, damage and healing so many tank and support heroes are capable of providing.
so i have to disagree.
Couldnât agree more, but you are forgetting that they are also the ones who complain endlessly over every single hero in the game which leads to nerfs and buffs to every hero which will also make the community complain.
See the above post for example lol
You are incorrect. Overwatch BY DESIGN encourages and amplifies toxicity; we have discussed this preciously in several threads. in brief:
- hero counter design creates frustration
- slow to non-existent balancing (brig, moth meta, goats, etc.)
- forced and mediocre esport
- no private servers/communities lumping all players together
- too team focused in a random queue system
Any 2 or 3 of these factors will give you a poisonous playerbase and weâve got ALL OF THOSE and smurfs too. Blizzard is almost wholly responsible for the state of the playerbase who plays the game with the systems THEY designed.
Iâve said it before and iâm sure I will say it again: Bliz has no handle on the human condition and does not consider it when designing their games. This is becoming more and more apparent.
No it doesnât.
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So, whatâs stopping the community form changing the matchmaking system?
Oh, the community donât have access to that.
I dont really understand the point of this thread.
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Thatâs kinda like saying criminals make ghettos.
Iâm guessing you skipped sociology.
lmao the game would probably be actually good if they were designing it for esport
My man, you may need to play closer attention.
Pick and ban is coming to ranked next season.
I only agree with this because the changes the pros are suggesting are good for the game; just like in Overwatch. If you have an issue with the Overwatch prosâ inputs then youâd probably hate Pengu just as much, if not more. Heâs incredibly arrogant and big headed and always demands changes and (unlike a particular OW pro that Mercy mains are upset with), Pengu actually impacted them. Heâs arrogant because heâs the best, and what he proposes, like I said, is good for the game. But a lot of people strongly dislike him for it, or disagree with his suggestions.
While Blizzard canât completely control the community, it should have systems in place to monitor and improve the relationships within the community from the beginning.
The reporting and endorsement system should have been in place at launch. A guild/clan system should also be in place. These things encourages players to bond together.
Instead, Overwatch felt like an island with a single boat. When you want to connect with someone, that boat will take you to another island with 11 other players but after playing with the 11 other players, youâre forced to go back to your island.
On launch, OW should have had a robust reporting system; endorsements with meaningful rewards; and a clan/guild system. This would have reduced toxicity greatly from the beginning, in my opinion.
Now they have to deal with damage control, instead of a preemptive solution.
Lots of people I know stopped playing because of the toxicity, something must be seriously wrong with the community.
Activision forces Blizzard to make an Esport from a freshly published game. Is this the communities fault?
The automated report system prioritizes quantity over quality. Is this the communities fault that Blizzard cant handle false reports or to make a report checking system?
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Iâve met lots of wonderful people and made new friends in the community. Everyoneâs experience is different. I donât see anything âseriously wrong with the communityâ
I come across the toxicity, but I focus on the good in everyone.
And besides, people arenât being toxic for the sake of toxicity. They are just trying to win, and they think they know the right course of action to win.
Keep an open mind and try to accept that everyoneâs behaviour stems from misunderstanding, not toxicity. Sure, it can lead to toxicity but that isnât the source. Mostly, its just frustration from losing.
Some of the community toxicity could be reduced with better game mechanics, I.E Endorsements apparently helped.
More player options would help, map avoid, more player avoid slots, role queue modes etc
Having everyone play the game in their restricted manner creates some toxicity which would be resolved with a bit of freedom. (The workshop is a sub game, I just mean QP and Comp)
blizzard keeps triggering the community and then blames it
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Iâm kind of getting tired of reading the same responses from other people just in different words so im keeping this ignored, a good few of these comments sound more like toxicity than actually being professional honestly. I know a few people disagree and I get that but please be professional otherwise Im keeping this ignored and salty comments wont mean squat. Thanks!
Overwatch isnt dead but itâs definitely well past itâs prime
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Yet, the community complained to hell about that hero making them useless outside of a certain comp. People still complain about said hero.
The community complained about mass rez cause âmuh skillâ and how hide and rez was not how youâre supposed to play her and she got a rework many Mercy mains didnât want.
While Blizzard over buffs or nerfs things, this community like above does have a hand it. Look at Zarya, people want her nerfed over her damage but put her on dive and her damage is non existent.
No it wouldnât. You canât fix people toxicity.
A defeatist attitude, to say it wouldnât without trying, how do you know?