Blizz, admit Brigitte is a massive mistake

[GradeÅ-1655]

Let’s count the number of CC’s in this team comp.

1. Mei
2. Doomfist
3. Mccree
4. Brigitte
5. Ana
6. Roadhog

And people went absolutely ape sheet over Sombra hack… Srsly?

#internetlogic

[Djawida-2270]

and low risk+skill should come with little reward #deletebrigitte

[SuccubusNTTV-1422]

That’s not how RPS countering works.

[Djawida-2270]

yes it does, a simple exemple is baby tracer, the face of the game, 150hp no sustain no burst, no shield high skill high reward.

[Felhelen-1952]

You clearly don’t play him either. What more proof do I need other than the fact that I have vastly more time on Rein compared to both of you.

6 hours more than the account I have whose sole purpose is to allow me to post on the forums…nice. And according to the evo guy’s stats he is a torb one trick in diamond…nice. I thin if you look around a bit you will find people with ‘vastly’ more time than you on rein who utterly hate her. I know rein mains who quit the game when brig wasn’t subsantially nerfed in season 11.

[OWSaint-1218]

Blizzard comments here

Things I love about the game, a "Thank You" to the devs

This probably won’t get a response, but I figured I give it a shot anyway. Hey Tom, thanks for all you guys have done for both the community and this game. I was wondering if you guys checked out the following thread from Titanium. It has over 1,500 likes, so I’d say that it’s quite a hot topic on here. I just figured I ask since it’s been the all time top thread in your forums for quite some time now, and I would highly suggest giving it a look. ~Sincerely Yours x…

And not this thread. Speaks volumes

[SuccubusNTTV-1422]

RPS means “rock paper scissors”.

That type of balancing doesn’t work if the less demanding option cannot compete with more demanding ones. You end up with a situation where Rock may beat Scissors, but Paper’s high skill ceiling means that scissors loses to that, too.

[Zenkoast-1204]

100% correct. Low skill heroes shouldnt have have half the impact high skill heroes do.

[Frantastick-11391]

Who cares if he takes skill.

[Remedy-12480]

She sucks the fun out of this game. My biggest complaint is that she has an EXTREMELY high impact, with very little risk or even skill.

High risk should come with high reward.

I don’t really find your complaint valid after playing her a bit. While she obviously doesn’t have the highest mechanical skill ceiling, she can easily be surrounded and killed – so I’d call her high risk. She also requires the same kind of skill a lot of tanks do in the game sense of when to go in and when to chill.

[SidewaysGts-1926]

At least Doomfist takes a lot of skill. Also Doomfist has a direct counter. Brig really has no counter

I’ll agree with the notion that in compapriosn doomfist does take a healthy amount of skill compared to Briggs- and that I do feel she’s way too easy for the impact she has.

But that said I don’t find Briggs OP (albeit that doesn’t seem to have been directly stated), and feel she does have very effective counters.

My concern is more or less however that it’s harder to play her counters against her than it is to play her into her counters. If you CAN, she’s not a big deal. But t definitely takes more effort in my opinion.

[Remedy-12480]

I’ll agree with the notion that in compapriosn doomfist does take a healthy amount of skill compared to Briggs- and that I do feel she’s way too easy for the impact she has.

But that said I don’t find Briggs OP (albeit that doesn’t seem to have been directly stated), and feel she does have very effective counters.

My concern is more or less however that it’s harder to play her counters against her than it is to play her into her counters. If you CAN, she’s not a big deal. But t definitely takes more effort in my opinion.

Mobility is always a key factor. When people have situational awareness it takes alot away from Brig, where as Doomfist can pretty much get anywhere with ease, and escape as well if he does. Brig, much like Rein, is all or nothing type of situation.

Again, this factors in more in the higher skill rankings obviously. Watching high ranked streams I almost see no Brigs unless they are directly countering a Tracer whose owning the team, yet I see Doomfists for days.

[OWSaint-1218]

Continuing the discussion from [ALL] Overwatch Patch Notes – May 3, 2018:

@TomPowers

Brigitte

Shield Bash

• Cone angle reduced from 90 to 60

Developers Comment: When fighting against Brigitte, it often felt like Shield Bash was able to hit players who felt like they were out of its range and should have dodged it. On the flip side, when playing as Brigitte sometimes players would hit the wrong enemy in the middle of a fight. With the cone being reduced, the ability is more accurate to its visual representation.

Continuing the discussion from [ALL] Overwatch Patch Notes – MAY 22, 2018:

@TomPowers

Brigitte

Rally

• Maximum armor per player reduced from 150 to 100

Shield Bash

• Cooldown increased from 5 to 6 seconds

Developer Comments: Brigitte’s ultimate is very powerful, especially when it gets stacked up to its maximum value on many allies. This change will reduce the maximum armor value of Rally, but does not reduce the overall amount of armor given by the ability over its duration. This means when used in combat while her allies are taking damage, it should feel about the same, but the lingering effects of the armor should have less of an impact. Her Shield Bash is a very strong ability on a fairly short cooldown, making it difficult for her opponents to play around. Increasing this cooldown allows for more options when battling against her.

@GeoffGoodman

In the next patch we’re reviewing the current state of support heroes and are making some changes to nearly all of them to keep them competitive with each other. I’ll start by just listing the changes below:

Brigitte

• Shield Bash cooldown increased from 6 to 7 seconds.

@GeoffGoodman

Brigitte

Shield Bash is Brigitte’s strongest ability, and its short cooldown makes it very difficult to play around. We’d like to keep her Shield Bash and subsequent melee combos powerful and effective, while just allowing a little more counter-play against it. We’ve talked about possibly reducing her defense somewhere, such as reducing her barrier health. However, her tank-hybrid nature is a core part of her kit and we want to make sure she maintains that feeling of being a difficult target to take down. Overall Brigitte’s win rate is still the highest of any support, despite dishing out the lowest amount of raw healing per second. This speaks volumes to how powerful her kit can be outside of her direct healing numbers.

Maybe blizzard doesn’t have to admit a mistake because there isn’t one

[Djawida-2270]

the problem is goats alreads beats both the other ones more than half the time.

[SuccubusNTTV-1422]

I’m not exactly sure what you’re trying to say.

Do you mean GOATS comp? Sorry, but that wasn’t the clearest statement.

[Zaehelhm-1222]

Or perhaps you people need to admit she’s fine and actually learn how to beat her(aka adapt)

[Djawida-2270]

or you should admit that she brings unfairness and destroys the fun of this game.

[Djawida-2270]

that last one is blizzard admitting that she needs more nerfs

[Crestren-1121]

That would apply to practically a lot of heroes in some ways.

Unless you have a hitscan, Pharah brings unfairness and destroys the fun of this game because shes untouchable unless you have hitscans.

Unless you have a better sniper or a dive hero, Widow is unfair to fight against because she can one shot you from a distance.

It goes on and on with other heroes for example, but you get the gist of what im saying. Not every hero is fair to fight against. Try fighting Pharah as Junkrat or Bastion as Winston and tell us how it works out.

[Djawida-2270]

how many hitscans in the game? how many shielders in the game?
now compare that number to the number of heros who can counter brigitte in her goats comp.