šŸ’” Bastion ISNā€™T being forgotten, heā€™s being ignored

Well thatā€™s a bit of a harsh way to put it, but I agree. Sentry should never move, except if you wanted to do tank on E with Sentry with tank treads as the ultimate.

Thatā€™s something that the forums would love.

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regardless of how good or bad it might be, forget about it as itā€™s requiring a huge amount of work and worry invested by Overwatch dev team.

It is NOT easy to throw away all your work and essentially start again from scratch re-making everyā€¦ singleā€¦ bastionā€¦ skin. So that he has tank tracks. That is not easy. Only someone who has zero appreciation of the hard work thatā€™s gone into this game thinks you can copy and paste one onto the other.

No, this is going to cost a small fortune to do properly, to go through every single skin. Stitch it all together. And go through the long and laborious testing process where you make sure there are no unintended interactions.

Tank-on-E is supposedly viable because it doesnā€™t require huge amounts of artists work be hucked into the trash and loads of models re-made.

The problem with Tank-on-E isā€¦ what the hell would the Ulitmate be?

It CANNOT be a 4th model. And a model that is a combination of multiple different models IS going to be as hard or even harder than making brand new models from scratch. Because stitching bits of different models together and getting the animations to work is not viable.

And there are other problems with Tank-on-E such as how often Bastion able to rocket jump and transform into sentry mid air as a matter of routine.

Maybe a far better solution is to slash the cost of ultimate and make the ultimate of much shorter duration, so only 5-6 seconds but also with a quick transformation time. Because the whole point of Tank on e is to be able to use it more often but in much shorter burstsā€¦ well a shorter ult thatā€™s quicker to earn will do that.

They need to rework him so heā€™s not so defense oriented. Heā€™s pretty much the core of cheesy bunker comps, the most annoying comp in the game. Heā€™s either too weak on his own, or too strong with a comp built completely around him.

If he was supposed to be a shield breaker, they should do something where he does more damage to shields but doesnā€™t completely nuke everyone else. Heā€™s not just a shield breaker, heā€™s an everything breaker.

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People have suggested something similar to old molten core for a new ultimate. Massive buffs to his kit for 10 seconds or so.

They could help fix this by making his passive give more health instead of a damage resistance. That way healing wonā€™t be extra effective on him.

Heā€™s supposed to be an everything breaker. Massive damage at the cost of mobility.

This is a really good idea.

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I think youā€™ll find every comp is annoying for precisely the same reason that every comp exists. Because such comps are effective.

Bunker comp is the least annoying of all comps because it is so passive. No comp is immune, bunker comp is especially vulnerable not least for how its so easy for the enemy to plot its destruction. Which is confirmed by the fact of how Bunker comp is only common in the very lowest ranks.

I hate bunker comp because it perpetuates the lie ā€œBastion is viable hunkering behind a shield and only thenā€

Nope. Dive requires a ton of coordination to play which is why it was only seen at roughly the top 5% of players. Same with goats, you donā€™t see goats at all and when it did exist only top % of players. Bunker comps just has everyone stand around and do 1 simple task (put down shield, spam heal, shoot in a general direction). It takes no coordination to play but a ton of coordination to take down, which is why you see it at lower tiers such as gold.

Yeah, donā€™t try to pull the wool over my eyes, we know how rare bunker comps is from Bastionā€™s pickrate which is under 1%.

So donā€™t try to pass off bunker comps as common compared to 5% rate of dive comps.

Iā€™m not going over this again, but spamming fire onto the Orisa shield from the safety of cover barely counts as coordination.

Itā€™s ONLY seen in lower ranks NOT because itā€™s so easy to pull off but because even in goldā€¦ GOLDā€¦ has enough ā€œcoordinationā€ to destroy bunker comps.

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I see from the responses that none of you are even willing to think about any of the changes I talked about. If your that dead set on what he should be and how he should play itā€™s no wonder the developers never want to touch him. Going by what you said he canā€™t be buffed or changed at all without becoming broken ā€œOPā€. It is basically impossible to balance him. Have fun with your broken ā€œbadā€ super niche character :stuck_out_tongue:

In my case im ok with anything even the ā€œsymm 3.0ā€ type of change for bastion, i dont really care much for the game in the current state but maybe the rework could be a fresh content that we need. The problem still lies within community rather than balance, soā€¦

Im not even sure if i would comeback to new bastionā€¦ whats the point of having 6th dps on your teamā€¦

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Yes, how dare we insist a sentry mode actually beā€¦ a sentry mode.

Clearly the ONLY possible change is to effectively get rid of sentry mode and replace it with something fundamentally different.

Are you going to address a single one of the other proposals anyone else has made or are you going to act like only your opinion matters?

At least Symmā€™s turrets were still turrets!

Her beam traded reliability for power.

And who areā€¦ youā€¦ again?

TREB has made a name for themselves by at least sticking to their own word and engaging others in civil conversation.

I donā€™t even know you.

So please, try to keep it civil.

And everyone, give this guy some slackā€¦ and maybe heā€™ll address the topic at hand.

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He was on the old megathread and I invited him here. Seemed like he hust wanted to share ideas but not sure what happened.

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Yea i saw that.

Every invasion is proceeded by an invitation of good will.

i noticed something weird about the gwisin Bastion taking a look at the upper and lower arms of the recon mode i see signs that that version of Bastion was optimised for fast production, the arm casing lower arms being in two pieces. possibly for quicker repairs/replacement

Could Bastions be back on the front lines for the omnics in the new crisis.

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Yes please.

More lore reasons to change the heroā€™s balance stats are always welcomed.

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im going to do a Darters tech break down of the new bastion here, the more i look at the new skin the more suspect that it is a far surpasses our favorite robot killer in all respectsā€¦ in a lore way

give me a day or so im still cataloging things.

The minigun seems smaller from a first person perspective, but that could just be a bug.

I wonder if we can script our own bastion inside the workshop.

hmm

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Oh heck yeah bois

Our time has come.

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