I know that hero usage doesn’t hold much weight, but Bastion is at 0.1-0.05%. He’s at rock bottom by such a large margin that the 2nd-least used hero above him still sees 20-50x better usage. He’s a throw pick in 99.99% of scenarios.
No it has nothing to do with the damn meta, because he’s been terrible for the last 6 seasons straight.
Are Blizzard trying to get Bastion to 0% officially? Why even have him on the hero selection page?
When is Bastion’s second rework coming? What are the details?
But trends with that usage does. I made a thread on that: Bastion's pickrate has been steadily declining in GM
It has been dropping quickly in GM and so has his winrate down to 0.06% pickrate and 50% winrate. People might say that 50% is good but people also say Bastion is super powerful in his “niche”. If he’s so powerful in his niche why is it that the people who would only ever play him in that “niche”, which would be GM, are playing him less and less and he’s started being only average at the one place he’s supposed to be above average.
Edit: This just in! His winrate just tanked in GM this week!
Oh, and I just edited this into that post:
There is a very easy way to fix Bastion: Remove him entirely. That worthless trash shouldn’t be in a game like this in the first place.
Bastion sucks, we all know this.
Rework needed ASAP!
Why are people like this and how are people like this? I may not like Genji but I’m not going to say we should delete him. Sombra may be doing bad but I’m not going to say we should delete her.
You sir, need to calm down. How about we delete Lucio? How would you feel then? (your main)
Unlike Bastion, Lucio’s playstyle doesn’t involve sitting in one spot racking up easy kills. Bastion’s entire kit is basically anti-teamwork and that isn’t great in a game where teamwork is supposed to be the focus. I also wouldn’t say that Lucio is my top main now, I have been playing as Zarya a lot lately because of her excellent playstyle that is actually fun to use. Bastion? Just sit, shoot, repair, and maybe run and repeat. Can’t say I am surprised that they couldn’t get THAT to work well.
If it were so easy he wouldn’t have the lowest pickrate of any hero plat and above and for a very long time he was the least played everywhere. It only took an equally bad hero to take the overall number but he’s still least played in more ranks.
Have you not seen pirateship or protect the president at all? His kit is solophobic because if you go solo you die. You nearly always need a shield tank or a pocket healr or even both.
You obviously have no idea how Bastion works.
It worked with the TF2 engineer. A stationary target that puts out essentially the highest damage in the game but it also isn’t OP.
Also it autotargets so the scout (Tracer) dies almost instantly with no protection. It also has knockback on its bullets so you know how annoying that would be.
It has been done with a way more powerful stationary target and it works.
I’m surprised you ignored previous examples to make a non existent point.
This is probably a bit more obcure but the SPGs in World of Tanks have oneshot capabilities on basically all other vehicles but have to sit still for a much longer time than other tanks to stabilize and get an accurate shot (if you move all tanks lose accuracy but sitting still makes it more accurate, the SPGs have the longest of those aiming times).
And Lucio has been described as a hero that does things by simply existing. Use a song and push E when it’s off cooldown while spamming spacebar on walls and now you’re doing fine. You don’t even need to aim to do that.
See what I just did? Over simplified everything like you did.
I thought you would say that. I think Bastion’s abysmal pick rate isn’t just because that he sucks, but because that he isn’t fun to play as at all. Seriously, he is extremely boring to play as and he offers nothing to the team that is interesting or takes any brain power whatsoever. He simply isn’t fun.
The only way bastion can be saved at this point is to pull a Symmetra and remake him from the ground up. I would be in support of that, because right now he simply is wasting a character slot.
Oddly enough, on console (platinum and below), I always see a Bastion being played, on control maps, defense with Orisa (sometimes without Orisa), on attack. Basically all the time. And everyone is ok with it. When you get over the learning curve with controls, everyone plays them the same exact way on console and PC (the meta is the same; yes, everyone aims the same at a certain point, and no, everyone turns at the same rate since everyone maximizes sensitivity on console right away, and lowers sensitivity on PC right away). So the only difference between console and PC is culture. For some reason, PC players do not like Bastion, and it baffles me. Console players like Bastion, and I actually grew used to playing with and against Bastions. It is very interesting seeing PC players knowing nothing about working with Bastions and fighting against them. They are completely stumped. And I’m just very impressed at how interesting it is.
I have only heard that argument like twice and I have never once seen any any evidence to support it and only those two times (including this) have been about only that. Two people.
He’s not fun for you. That doesn’t mean he’s not fun for others. Again, you’ve over simplified everything. You need to be good at tracking and keeping track of your healing as well as knowing when to use recon and now to use both modes. There’s more going on with him than Lucio. Usually I see Lucio’s spam their abilities and still do well. Bastion doesn’t have anything spammable. His recon gun is more accurate than Soldier’s too so he has to be even better at tracking than Soldier.
What do you suggest then? Take sentry and now it’s not even Bastion anymore.
Sounds pretty good to me.
Then you should probably just leave. If your idea of helping a hero is to delete their core component then you don’t belong here.
Wut an edgelord. Is your name Gabriel Reyes by any chance?
This is sad. How could beep boop boy be treated like this? ![:frowning:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/frowning.png?v=5" ":frowning:")
Hope he gets fixed/improved soon.
That’s absolutely false. If anything Bastion promotes teamwork, on both sides.
Allies can rely and protect a Bastion to cover a wide range with his damage output.
Enemies generally need to work together to take down the President meta when he does have a barrier protector.
It’s simple, certainly. But in being so it promotes good steps in bringing teams to working together. The problem is his basic fundamentals are too simple in higher tiers, which is what Blizzard needs to buff or work around a rebalance for.
Mobility does not equal teamwork. Covering a part of the team’s output does.
They can all succeed, and they can all fail.
You can hate Bastion for being different, but to say he doesn’t belong in a game about diversity is false.
???
Bastion is the most team-reliant hero in the game.
Bastion had a re-work, it didn’t work and so he’s been pushed further back. Immobile heroes are really hard to balance in this game, people can make a lot of suggestions that sound good on paper but end up messing with unforeseen things.
Overwatch be complicated.
How about allowing Bastion to move in turret form (use his tanktracks), but only at 50% speed? And allow him to transform on-the-move, so he doesn’t completely root+stun himself every time he transforms.
Basically we don’t touch his damage output, but make him less of a free kill and give him a bit more flexibility with slow movement in turret form.
In Overwatch it’s ridiculously easy to counter anyone who is standing still (avoid/flank/snipe), and that is by far Bastion’s biggest problem.