Bash Should Have 0.1s Stun

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If Brig can’t even shut down poorly-timed abilities with her sugarglass shield, it takes a lot of the strategic value out of her kit. There’s no genuine reward for being close enough to Bash anyone but a Tracer, it’s a retreat tool so much more often than not…

Why couldn’t we fix the Rally bug BEFORE nerfing her 17 times, so we could actually see what did and didn’t work, before assuming EVERYTHING didn’t work? She’s more vulnerable to dive than Moira, and no healer should be more dive-resistant than Brig.

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lower the damage to 5 and increase the CD then

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Why? She has 350 less barrier.

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you don’t think a stun on a 5 second cooldown would be broken?

it has 12m of range too

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No wtf have you not learnt from playing overwatch 1? Brig is good right now why are you asking for her to get giga buffed.

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Good implies she doesn’t have a million counter-swaps, many of them dive.

One-tenth of a second, mate. It’s only enough to shut down a noob cast, it’s not oppressing anyone.

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It’s not about the duration, it’s about the ability to cancel ultimates and key abilities on a 5 second cooldown

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On a shield this weak? That’s a trade more than a shutdown. Being frontline enough for a shutdown to begin with is such a risk without a 600HP barrier.

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Brig is only good in GM and entirely because Juno being the meta support, and Tracer/Widow being the meta definers in there.

Outside GM, Brig is average at best and extremely easy to counter when the DPS role isnt reduced to like 2 heroes she was made to be good against (Tracer, Widow).

If you are using an ult in front of Brig you deserve to have it cancelled. 12m is basically nothing in this game.

I dont see how respecting Brig’s very limited range is somehow ‘‘broken’’.

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So by that logic bring back Mei freeze and flashbang stun?

I’m down :sunglasses:

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Mei freeze has always been fine. In fact a big reason why Mei has been a D tier hero for most of OW2 is that she only got partial compensation for it.

Flashbang on the other hand was an unbalanced nightmare that was overpowered to try to counter Tracer.

Unlike Mei or Brig, Cassidy has insane, lethal burst up close.

And unlike Mei or Brig, Cassidy has never been bad like they are right now.

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Mei headshotting a frozen target isn’t insane lethal burst? Well it isn’t as bursty as a flash fan but flash fan also had potential solutions they never bothered to implement

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Pass. Stun is not needed either tho.

It’s really not that hard. Brig hasn’t had 600hp shield for more than half a decade and she’s done just fine cancelling ults in ow1

I would agree currently because she can only do so on an ult. Letting her do so whenever is not necessary.

Also this ignores the many ults that only work at close range (blossom cage, emp, etc) and many more ults that aren’t hard to position accordingly to cancel (blizzard, coalescence)

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Not only do I want no support interrupts/stuns (it’s fine in Brig’s ult), I want Ana to also lose hers.

Until the game goes full 6v6 then support can’t have hard CC. Even if it does go 6v6 I think CC should stay reduced.

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Mei has to spend almost 2 seconds preparing it. So no, that is not insane lethal burst.

Cassidy can pump out 300+ dmg instantly on an almost instant stun.

Alright then lets turn every single ability or gun that can potentially stop an ultimate into an ultimate too.

Since apparently y’all think that its a crime for Brig to be able to do something that like 75% of the heroes in the game can do already.

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Help, Im being threatened with a good time

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Why are GM and T-500 so scared of counter-swapping…? Brig had counters before the 17 nerfs.

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Because they know that wont keep their tier if they are forced to learn new heroes.

Status quo must never change. Tracer needs to be the ever meta.

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Isn’t brig the anti dive support? Not sure where you’re getting your info on this.

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lol, because the stun is really strong ability by it’s self. That turns off a lot of ults, cooldowns, and sets up for damage combo’s, even it’s not 100% gaureenty the free hit.

Especially against tanks which she is already decent at managing with whipshot.

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