I really like Baptiste. But looking at the roster, it just makes mercy stand out even more to me. Can’t Mercy be moved officially to “off-healer” status? I would really like a new primary healer, and I like the idea of Moira being the closest to a “no aim” healer. Moira should be tweaked to be the “pure, healer” of the game (DON’T LET DVA EAT “HEAL” ORBS JEFF??? PLEASE?). She lets people learn to when to prioritize healing, and the beginnings of tracking. Can’t the Archetype of Healing Be Moira who doesn’t offer utility to corrupt that role (like how Rein is the Tank Archetype).
Right now, Mercy is the only so-called “primary” healer who doesn’t have to aim. But why? Why is it that she doesn’t have to aim, but still gets more utility and abilities than Moira who can ONLY heal to help her team?
All the Off-healers and even Off Healing from non healers (soldier, sombra), don’t require aim by any means. The only one who breaks this, is Mercy.
Can we work her to be a “mainly healing” off-healer? That is, give her more utility, and either keep, or drop her healing? Where zen is a “more dps” off-healer, and brig is a “more tank” off-healer, Mercy can be a mainly healing off-healer. 45 or 40 hps, she really isn’t a solo healer like ana or moira but still pockets DPS well. She would be a stronger “heal-y” zen.
Can’t we stick to a formula and have off-healers not aim, and primary healers aim for healing? Why does Mercy get a pass?
You are asking for trouble on this forum by suggesting to get rid of the no aim component to Mercy’s healing.
Also Mercy is supposed to have consistent healing, that can’t happen with aim req.
Mercy is a main healer. She has been a main healer since launch. She will always be a main healer. She was a main healer with 60 HPS, she is still a main healer with 50 HPS.
She is not an off healer, and they will never make her an off healer. Her character design is clearly intended to be a strong single target throughput main healer with mobility.
Moira should not be the pure healer. Her whole concept is built on how much damage she does for the betterment of the world. It fits her character to the core of her lore.
Mercy is the good girl who only wants to heal/help her friends. Speaking in terms of hero identity, Mercy should be pushed the most into pure healing category. So I don’t really think there is much issue currently as she heals, damage boosts, and has a rez. People have been asking for a cleanse, but I think that’d be better of on another healer/support than over loading a current one.
Ok, so I see you are asking to nerf Mercy’s heal beam. What I don’t see is what you are going to give her to make up for that that shifts her towards being an off healer.
I’m not convinced this is a good idea anyway because of her characterization, but the strictly mechanics part of me is curious.
Advancement at any cost and yes that includes the destructive ends she would go to achieve them
“Dissent among her peers soon followed. Many considered her work to be dangerous because of its perceived ethical shortfalls, and O’Deorain was even accused of having the same unchecked desire for scientific advancement that some believed had caused the Omnic Crisis.”
“She continued her work in the shadows while developing new weapons and technologies for the organization.”
“O’Deorain will go to any lengths to make scientific breakthroughs”
And in terms of gameplay she has to harm in order to heal thats her whole dynamic when it comes to recharging her healing
They reworked her over “fun”
60 to 50 keeps her as a main healer, so why would 45 make her suddenly not?
Healing isn’t all she has. It’s utility. And we buffed her healing when ana came out. Why not work her to be an off healer at 45?
That’s not extra work. It’s functional changes. Like valk .
Mercy would still be okay. And it doesn’t impede a new hero from coming.
While I take issue with dmg boost and Rez as abilities, take a 40 how mercy with a 1 sec GA Cooldown and a instant Rez
Same mercy same play, different purpose.
See above.
Although personally, I would prefer a 45 beam, remove dmg boost and Rez, one sec GA, faster pistol switch, replace rez with a solo target bubble with a speed boost like in wow for priests. No cleanse but it does mitigate the speed monopoly from Lucio
“Halo” to you know… Prevent heroes from dying… As in heroes never die?
But like I said, her kit could stay and just buff to mitigate her value elsewhere.
Yeah… That’s where her heals come from… She still doesn’t aim very hard nor does healing solely establish you as “gentle” on mercy’s part- see also every other healer.
There is a large part of the community that will have a huge problem with that.
Considering mercy’s kit has entirely cycled around what her res does… lets stop while we’re ahead. She needs something to go along with the “heroes never die” shtick because like it or not it’s sort of a pivotal part of her character.
It’s NOT a great reason but it’s something I think the devs wont touch because of the absolute poopstorm it’d cause.
hence why poke a sleeping dragon when we can call mercy done and move on to another healer
You were disputing that just advancement of humans is her lore and healing is how she does it to Vex’s case of her whole character is about the damage she does towards that goal, I backed up Vex’s case with quotes from her lore showing how she will do anything and has done destructive things before to do it, and how her healing mechanic in game supports this idea to damaging others to better another,
I never mentioned anything about her aiming, anything about gentleness or anything about any other healer so 75% of your reply is completely meaningless and the other 25% doesnt refute me it’s just a confirmation of how it works
Not really. Just lore and history. Neither are relevant. Mercy was buffed to be a main healer. She can be worked the other way too.
And since they are two sides of the coin, wouldn’t having one a main and the other a secondary make sense?
For the reasons stated in the op
I see why not move her to zen tier?
It’s very flexible imo
Not really. Main healer Vs secondary. Mercy is still mainly healing in my suggestion, I just think Moira suits the main healer role better. Especially in her lore.