From a main support perspective, I like to play with every sup
Except Baptiste, and the amount of time I just NEED to pick him or I will lose is just awful
PLEASE rework this hero, if you won’t make him less op at least make him fun to play
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Sorry Blizzard doesn’t understand you can’t give an hero burst healing that’s aoe + more aoe heals and ON top of that great damage, an ultimate on cooldown and a fast building ult the doubles the damage of all projectiles/hitscan shots and his healing. He also gets mobility as well
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Thats why I play moira/Ana when I need a main healer u.u
Buuut, when I’m losing I pick Baptiste and everything is alright
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Do you really play baptiste? If you did, you would know that he was more fun to play prior to the hitscan fall-off revert. Most bap players like playing him because you get to shoot with him like the DPS role. If you never liked using baptiste in the first place, then maybe he’s not the hero for you or the entire hitscan DPS class for that matter. What’s most boring about him is the right click that you have to constantly do to the point where I feel like it’s shortening the lifespan of my mouse’s RMB.
I’ve recently converted to maining Cassidy now and I’m having a blast playing that hero. I’m tired of supports just being an enabler and not much of a playmaker so I decided to just start playing hitscan DPS instead and it has been so rewarding 
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if you wanna play a character to kill others, why dont you go to dps role and pick soldier?
bap is a SUPPORT, and different from zennyata, he doesnt lack any competency and is purely selfish
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Umm, what? You were asking why baptiste is not fun to play…I simply gave you an answer. Why are you trying to debate about bap’s balance all of a sudden?
…oh I get it, it’s because this post is really about you wanting bap nerfed. Nevermind then, carry on with your whining.
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i wasn’t asking for why he is boring, i was pointing that he is
and if you didnt read, i talked that yes a nerf or a rework
because if baps is a shoot bot, then make him dps, at least would make us supports mains not locked into him to win
Ana shoots as well…so does zenyatta…and lucio…and I’ve already proposed how bap could be more enjoyable to play if you have read my previous post in other threads. Nerf his healing to zen’s level and make him a hitscan version of zen who is strong in close combat, but weak in long-range. It will give support another way to deal with lack of damage in their team like zen. Let him keep Immortality Field as compensation, but make it so that he can’t use it on himself to make him immortal.
But I digress, this post is just a bap hate thread instead of how can bap be more fun thread. So I’m not going to entertain this further and waste anymore time with somebody who’s sole purpose is to complain about a hero and not be proactive.
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Well first we get a more dps like primary fire in the support role.
As for his secondary personally each time i land a shot feels good, and feels even better when i’m landing direct hits on a Pharah/Echo teammate.
And you also get to jump high all the time so…
Yeah overall for me Baptiste is super fun to play.
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Again if you just wanna to shoot, why not pick a dps?
Fun is subject, but he is just the most boring of the sups
A character that has no weak is not fun
Also subjective.
However playing a mobile hero is usually considered fun.
Also landing skillshots feels good for most players, and Baptiste’s secondary fire can be considered a skillshot in some way.
Or if you like to play support but you also like more dps type guns?
Nothing is wrong with having extra options.
Ok so you mean he is not fun to play AGAINST?
because he has no weaknesses?
Well Immortality Field (Lamp) is on a 25s cooldown and his jumps are easy to track. So no it’s not like that he has no weaknesses.
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All characters are entitled to kill potential and doing DPS regardless of role.
These DLC characters were designed with this ridiculous design philosophy of “Make it easier” over time nonsense that might work for an MMO, it doesn’t work for an FPS. Bap, Brig, Moira even Ashe and Sigma all are a sign of this. Ball is an exception though one could argue even in his case, he is able to operate way too far out of bounds without a penalty. OW needs a huge injection of limits on abilities to force skilled play into the picture.
Bap in particular just does obscene amounts of healing and damage, let’s not even start on the game breaking impact of Immortality Field. He is right now the single easiest character to carry and rank on hands down.
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Man what is your fun when you sit somewhere and just shoot people, and make them don’t die?
Explain to me
bap its the only hero i climb to master with (se’20~23).
Pretty agrre he is op vs other sup but this is because he is the last sup that got realse back April 2019. So i guess i can be able to chose only one hero from 7 supps, at least he can combain great heal and fine dmg. with nicely utilly and ult.
Maybe OPs real problem is that hitscan in general is boring 
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You can say this for every other hero or any other shooter in general.
But even then Bap don’t play like that, don’t forget your Exoboots. I’m constantly using them 90% of the time. And it’s never boring.
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You have a point, I don’t care about them in dps
But why do we have a sup that is a jack of all trades and it is boring? Lol
There’s always meta picks. And everyone always complains about the meta. Particularly heroes that require less aim. You are probably in the minority in terms of what you like, and really your only choice that people wouldn’t be mad at, is whether you want Bap or Ana to be meta?
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Baptiste is probably the best designed support out all 7 (competes with Ana) - impactful, good yet not meta-defining. Definitely one of the supports who needs the least amount of a rework as he is good to go in 5v5.
The others need either more skill expression (Mercy), either more decision making (Brig), either to be less fragile on their own (Zen), either to be less obnoxious (Mercy/Moira)
He’s fine for me; but a bit meh.
I would like a semi rework to regen burst to make it more impactful, since it’s just a limited Lucio heal that isn’t even an actual burst heal on cd.
And his lamp to me is just boring. I mean it feels great to stop ultimates and abilities that would kill your ally, but other than that its meh and overpowered considering its on a cd and on a character that can heal so much and do ok damage (except in long range).
I love the passive even if it feels like his kit has way too much stuff. I like being able to get HighGround to help my team more, or to escape or fight the enemy better.
His heal is fine since you do have to somewhat aim to actually get the actual full effect of it. True its spammy but tbh everyone can make some argument that every supports kit is somewhat either spammy or simply way too easy to heal a target.
In general bap is fine considering the balance of other characters. I have already stated what I would like to be looked at so no reason to restate that. And remember that we all have different views on what fun is and who is fun.
But yah, he’s meh to me.
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