Banning trash talk instead of just silencing

So, if that is not the case, would they admit it?

I mean, if you said something that’s clearly over the line, you’re gonna get reported and thus, suspended/silenced.

I love how on this topic, the only ones agreeing with OP are the ones who have been punished for toxic chat or other such behaviors.

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Yeah, everyone says that. Everyone is a OTP off-meta that gets banned for playing a hero, and everyone is a sparkle pony that has been unjustly vilified and sanctioned for their sweetness and cupcake personality.

Oh, and I’m not fat I have a glandular problem.

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I have to agree. Like it or not, trash talk has been part of everything competitive, ever. Check your feelings at the door and use the features provided to mute/block/avoid/report players you don’t like.

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It takes numerous reports to actually get banned. If you’re getting reported enough to receive a ban, then you’re likely not getting falsely reported. It’s easy for people to claim that they’ve been banned for no reason, but there’s honestly no reason to believe them.

Most professional sports will ban/suspend players for inappropriate trash talk. You point is invalid.

Over what line? Surely the line is subjective from person to person, no?
For example, you could find me asking you to switch complete blasphemy and report me for it. That doesn’t mean it’s “abusive” chat, it just means you’re sensitive. And is there anything wrong with defending oneself? Or should we all just cower up and ignore someone who is genuinely being abusive to people?

Maybe because we’ve experienced it for ourselves?
It’s easy to just sit in the sidelines without any experience and go "oh yeah they must be toxic players because they received an auto-punishment.

Have you any way to prove it’s not true?
You can clearly check my hours and see I’ve invested a huge amount of time into Widow (who was niche/non-meta for a very long time) and Symmetra. You really think it’s hard to believe I would’ve been false reported a ton before?

I get your point, and no doubt some reports are justified, but to receive an auto-suspension from I believe 100 reports is crazy stupid. I’m almost certain that at least 66% of them are for the reasons I listed above.

Actually, it’s defined by CoC. You agreed to follow CoC and ToS when you made an account and purchased a license to play the game.

Or maybe, just maybe, you’re actually toxic? I know, it’s a long shot, but considering the fact that Blizzard has previously said that it’s never automatic with things like this, it’s probably your own fault.

Have You any way to prove your punishment is not genuine?

Like, you have no evidence to prove your innocence, yet Blizzard has every word you’ve every typed in chat since you picked this game up.

If 100 people found you to be toxic, you’ve got to be toxic lol.

Excellent question. Banning is appropriate for things like cheating, hacking, privacy violations, racism, or stalking. That last justification is interesting, because when someone threatens to report me, they are more likely to friend me than mute me.

Yet you seem to have a bit to say about it. And per thread title, the issue is with banned reports.

Oh, why? BTW during this thread discussion Blizzard gabe me another trust level :wink:

At no point did I raise 1st amendment rights. Please stay on topic. It’s also odd you are fine with a business taking your cash, and doing whatever they please.

Oh… how? What is the threshhold? And back on topic: why is banning necessary when a silence (pick your duration) solves the comm’s issue?

Wrong. They’ll even hit each other against the rules, get penalized but usually continue playing. Refs have better things to do than babysit conversations.

The category is literally “Abusive Chat”
Do you know how vague and subjective that is?
What you count as abusive, I may not, and vice-versa.

You actually believe that?
Many people who have received silences and suspensions will tell you that when appealed they receive the same old generic automated response.

Or maybe, just maybe, some are false reports? I know, it’s a long shot, but considering Blizzard don’t care at all about non-meta heroes and neglects the game at this point, it’s probably my own fault, right?

I just wonder if you have been silenced before. I doubt they will just ban an account for first offense.

It’s amazing how far you’re pushing this “They’re false reports” narrative. Considering Blizzard has all of the chat logs and Blizzard looks at all reports before a silence gets made, yes. It’s probably justified.

Which ones?

Look up … Larry Bird, Micheal Jordan, Isiah Thomas, Charles Barkley, Shaq, Cobe Brayant, … kings of the trash talk.
I don’t watch other american sports, but I doubt it’s any different.

Again, you believe what Blizzard tells you? You really think they check every report they get?
Delusional. They’re automated as are the punishments and the messages.

But the issue isn’t whether Moon is toxic. What’s the best game moderation response? A suspension ain’t it. This is Management 101, resolve the issue at the lowest level possible. A silence of any duration is better than a ban.

Yes, and while I disagreed with the criteria or threshold applied, it was acceptable. Because I was still able to play the game I paid for.

They don’t.

I hope you become a better person after this.

Yeah thicker skin is in short supply :wink:

They do though. They record all chat logs. If they didn’t, players would be abel to do some shady things on here without being punished.

The thing is, they were toxic enough to get a silence. If you’re toxic enough to get multiple silences, you might get a suspension/ban.

You’re implying that paying allows you to break the rules. This applies nowhere in the world. You go into a restaurant, you pay the same fee as any other customer but that doesn’t give you the right to harass the other patrons.

In the end, it is not only a morally correct decision but also a smart business decision to remove you from the premise: People are likely to avoid places with toxic people. In the same sense, if Blizzard openly tolerated toxicity in Overwatch then they’d lose more players than they gain.

You talk about “reality” constantly as if everyone is too sensitive, but the level of tolerance is much higher on the Internet than it is in real life: At this point, someone would probably have called the cops on you for causing a disruption.

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That what passes for a guarantee, in your mind? Hmmm.

No, they were reported often enough to get a ban (we’re talking about bans being the issue).