As a Mercy main, I don't see much wrong with Mercy as she is

[Megadodo-11847]

As a non-Mercy main, I really don’t like having Mercy on my team unless there’s some kind of pocket strategy going on (i.e. PharMercy, Mashe, bunker with Bastion), which it seems Mercy players really don’t like doing too much. Given that I dislike having Mercy on my team over Ana or Moira except in specific scenarios, and that Mercy players generally seem to dislike those scenarios, then I personally think Mercy should receive changes so that both parties’ concerns are addressed

I personally dont think it is necessarily a good idea to make significant changes to a hero based on one player’s requirement that she pocket or not play at all

[NotPrepared-11356]

Quick question on that claim of statistic: You’ve seen Blizzards data?

I’m tired of this statement simply on the grounds Blizzard wont show us anything and we’re stuck using inaccurate 3rd party sites. Honestly I think they should show these publicly if their going to use them to back up their opinions.

[Ihnami-1515]

What are you on? All heroes can make plays outside of ultimates, have you never seen a montage video?

I was asking what the reason for your claim was, as you can definetly make plays outside of ulting. It seems like you are the one who says that’s she needs mass Rez to do anything.

[Hypster-11971]

Just because you main someone doesn’t mean you have any kind of authority on their balancing. I disagree with you; Mercy is not fine. All we have are our opinions, which matter not to the powers that be. It is futile to make these threads.

[Megadodo-11847]

Statistically balanced ignores the fact that she feels like poo to play. Valkryie can be the most balanced ultimate in the game, doesn’t change the fact that I fall asleep when I use it.

Our experience differs

I find plenty to do when I am in Valkyrie, and high level Mercy players I have watched seem heavily engaged in activity during Valkyrie as well

I have never fallen asleep during Valkyrie

[Pacifist-21712]

[Long post] Mercy's current state (And an alternative kit)

Yesterday, I started a thread where I asked you "Why do you think Mercy needs changes?" The thread now has nearly 200 replies. Thank you everyone who posted their opinion there. Although I personally think that Mercy doesn’t need any major kit changes at the moment, I’d like to post my thoughts here on Mercy’s current kit, what I like about her and present my potential Mercy rework, if it was going to happen. First of all, I should introduce myself. I’m a GM Mercy player with around 350-400 …

I started a long post about Mercy’s current state, her good and bad sides, and what she could potentially be if we want her to be a main healer.

[RevertMercy-1819]

I feel as though there was an attempt to quote, without answering a previous question asked some time ago, breaking the clause of a prior agreement… Oh well… I suppose it’s just a light breeze.

As much as any other hero is a “Q-bot”. Please don’t apply double standards to Mercy by deriding her for formerly being able to make plays with her ult, when the general design of ultimates is literally “press Q to make a huge play”.

Preach it!

I find that argument to be getting very old and stale, especially considering how much “Q to win” spam and “Most Ults win” is prevalent in this day and age, and how much it dominates the meta.

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~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls

[Megadodo-11847]

On fire is purely a cosmetic stat. A “feel good” stat if you will. It doesn’t change gameplay, it doesn’t change whether you win or lose, it only exists for that “feel good” stuff

I would see it differently.

If it was cosmetic, I wouldn’t see the need for it’s inclusion during gameplay. If it was up to me and the intention is just to look good, then all of them should in theory have the same on fire rate, and be earned on one fixed stat. Of course as we know, that isn’t the case.

a great deal of the game is concerned with cosmetics - commendations, skins, medals, all the graphics really - I mean, the game could be played with stick figures and flat plain white walls and floors with no character, but I dont think the game would be as enjoyable if that were the case, personally

On Fire is purely cosmetic- it doesnt affect gameplay at all; and if there is a desire to have Mercy be on-fire more, this requires an adjustment to the on-fire engine, not Mercy

[RevertMercy-1819]

Another light breeze…

Quick question on that claim of statistic: You’ve seen Blizzards data?

I’m tired of this statement simply on the grounds Blizzard wont show us anything and we’re stuck using inaccurate 3rd party sites. Honestly I think they should show these publicly if their going to use them to back up their opinions.

In honesty, I’d like to see some official data reports as well. It would clear up a lot of questions I feel.

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~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls

[Megadodo-11847]

But… You do realize that the account in question is completely the opposite of your stance on Mercy now correct? OMEGALUL is renowned for being pro-revert, so if yes, I’d like to ask you… What caused that sudden change within the span on 3 months?

This account is too, you can look through my topics and find the one where I talk about changing my mind.
I can even add you on that account and talk to you like idk.

I have seen several Mercy mains now who have come to see that they were wrong for supporting the toxic and entitled Revert/Reworkmercy (same thing, different packaging) deals

Welcome to the side of Mercy, Pacifist, and no need to blush as you join us…

[Megadodo-11847]

#MercyIsFine

Just wanted to note here that there is only person I see referring to such a hashtag, and not a person I would expect to promote such a concept

[Megadodo-11847]

Yet Mercy’s On Fire decays really fast, since doing her job (healing) is mostly not enough to keep it.

And since that mechanic is still present in the game, why not tweak it a little for Mercy? xd

I support the idea of tweaking the on-fire engine so that Mercy is on fire a bit more often

No need for any changes to Mercy for this to occur

[Pacifist-21712]

I’d be happy if some of the attention here went to my latest post, I spent quite a lot of time writing it.

[Katattack-11943]

When people are given many choices at the cost of power they are likely to complain. It doesn’t matter how much you can do if all of it is lackluster.

zens ult does one thing, but it does that one thing well, compared to mercy who can choose to do a few different thing but none of them will ever reach that level of power.

[Megadodo-11847]

Since it aligns with the aforementioned #MercyIsFine agenda, I have my doubts.

What is this #MercyIsFine movement you’re talking about? Could you point me to some youtube videos? Maybe a twitter account? Do they have a spokesperson like Aria or someone we can talk to? Have they recently done an organized forum raid or called for a boycott?

Quest, you’re in my brain again - get out dude!

[Nere-2268]

If the easiest healer to start playing and mechanically most simple and easiest to be effective with struggles to be a better pick than one of the most mechanically demanding healer in SILVER, where basically everyone struggles with aim…

Mercy is not fine, not even close. She used to be the go-to pick in plat before rework. Now she’s a laughingstock even in low ranks. Moira does her job at the low ranks now. Mercy is not even needed and will disappear once we get Baptiste. Healer with lackluster utility and lackluster healing and even worse ultimate cannot hope to compete with other healers who have either the heals or all the utility they ever want… plus actually good heals.

[Megadodo-11847]

Mercy has the absolute lowest on fire rate, which should still be raising some red flags. This means that she doesn’t have “shining moments” like every other hero. The easiest way to become on fire with her is through kills, which says a lot about her kit.

What it means, actually, is that the on-fire engine needs to be adjusted to reflect a Mercy doing her job extremely well

This is an on-fire engine issue, not a Mercy issue

[RevertMercy-1819]

If the easiest healer to start playing and mechanically most simple and easiest to be effective with struggles to be a better pick than one of the most mechanically demanding healer in SILVER, where basically everyone struggles with aim…

Mercy is not fine, not even close. She used to be the go-to pick in plat before rework. Now she’s a laughingstock even in low ranks.

Indeed. The fact that she is being benched for higher skilled heroes like Ana and Moira, in elos where she is supposed to be dominant in, and at the same time, maintain a worse win-rate percentage in comparison, for months, concerns me. I respect the thoughts some have about it, but the #MercyIsFine narrative is something I definitely do not agree with.

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~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls

[Megadodo-11847]

I feel as though there was an attempt to quote, without answering a previous question asked some time ago, breaking the clause of a prior agreement… Oh well… I suppose it’s just a light breeze.

I personally haven’t observed anyone making an attempt to quote, though I have seen several folks quote others successfully

I dont know of anyone on these forums who has made an agreement with you on anything - perhaps you could fill the readers of this thread in on the details of the agreement you are referring to here?

[Nere-2268]

Devs can keep telling us how much “mercy is fine” till their faces go red from all the exertion, but it doesn’t change any of the statistics that she’s a garbage pick even in low ranks, even worse in high ranks and just as little used in owl. Other healers have her beat in every single category and Ana beats her even in healing done. Yet ana somehow has all the insane utilities she has and mercy can’t even outheal her anymore. How is that even close to being balanced when a healbot can’t outheal non-healbots?

Oh and soon baptiste makes the two utilities that mercy has, damageboost and ress, redundant. Keeping people from dying without any risks and shorter cd >>> ressing them and risking yourself on a longer cd any day of the week. Then his ultimate laughs at the face of mercy’s ultimate. Utterly and completely roflstomps it to the ground with the boosts you can get from it. 60hps and 30% damageboost on everyone doesn’t even come close to 100% dmgboost and 100% healing done. Mercy can’t even keep her team alive, but baptiste at the same time makes Ana into a transcendence and then wipes the enemy team. Then normally he also heals more than mercy lol.

Why ever use mercy when you have ana and baptiste? When ever?