- Those charts don’t show damage boost
- Mercy has the best survival out of any healer
- In raw DPS Mercy blaster outdamages Ana Rifle
Actually Valk isn’t even that good compared to other AOE healing ults, the damage boost part of Valk imo Isn’t even that powerful, in lower tiers they don’t take advantage of Damage Boost and in upper tiers they have Discord which basically gives everyone 30% extra damage for the whole game because shotcalling becomes more prominent.
They also don’t show Nanoboost, Anti-Nade, Healing Amped or Enemies Slept.
Lucio is better for sure.
Ana has two dps abilities and her rifle doesn’t have to be swapped to.
Upper tiers?
You mean like this?
Why settle for 30% damage boost when you can have 60%?
Idk aoe healing was one of 1.0 mercys weaknesses as she had 0 of it.
her niche was single target healing but she didn’t it consistently and well.
her new ult kinda throws that out the window.
But we’re talking about Ana’s place as a healer here. That really just cements her place as an off-healer, which is really bad since she’s supposed to be a main healer.
Lucio actually has pretty mediocre survival in general.
Haha. You think your conversation with GreyFalcon is somehow that far removed from what I have discussed with you?
Oh lord…
Yeah you take care, child. Best of luck ![:wink:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/wink.png?v=5" ":wink:")
My god…
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Bronze’s damage boost is probably alot lower than that damage though.
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Mercy has the lowest death rate because usually if the Mercy dies the fight is lost, assuming you don’t have another main healer. The beeffiest supports are Brigette and Lucio in actual surviveability.
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This isn’t a very fair argument, firstly Mercy has to take out the pistol to shoot, which is fine since you’re comparing a gun with a gun but Mercy’s closest compared to support gun is Lucio and he’s literately the worst support right now. The reason why is because his damage is projectiles so is inconsistent to hit, you have to land more shots to kill stuff and you can easily outheal damage over time.
All of this applies to Mercy as well, that’s why Damage Over Time guns should be more powerful than instant damage guns.
Yeah bronze are bad at a lot of things…
Yeah it’s totally not because she has an amazing mobility on a low cooldown, can heal through walls, etc, etc. It’s because if she dies everyone just resets. Wait, why in plat am I struggling to have people regroup then? Wtf?
Mercy’s pistol is legit af. I’m sorry you have to scroll your mouse wheel to bring it out. It’s hardly make or break. The thing is, Mercy has no reason to go DPS style on someone, she can easily avoid that where Ana or Zen eats a one clip.
Bad arguments. Like really bad.
If you look at the statistics Ana has the 2nd least deaths out of every support… So I mean it’s pretty counterproductive to bash Mercy for having the least then ignore the fact Ana has the 2nd least.
Secondly, how is that a bad argument? Soldier shoots 9 bullets a second with 19 damage each, so in theory he has a DPS of 171 not including headshots. The reason why Soldier is worse than McCree 70 DPS most of the time is because it’s harder to land every single shot of Soldier’s gun compared to 1 bullet of McCree’s every second. Just like how it’s easier to land 1 bullet of Ana’s compared to 5 of Mercy’s every second.
So? Ana is also the only direct long range heal. You have Zen, but his heal is nothing compared to Anas potential. They are both very immobile. When looking at these death statistics what we can acknowledge is that Mercy has no problems when it comes to surviving. At all.
Yo… I’m glad you know stats, but you are not even acknowledging the reality of what they’re applying to. If you want to get into it, ADAD crouch spam has huge benefits vs hitscan. Mercy’s projectile size is quite large, and due to it’s size and movement speed, you can basically blanket areas while ADAD crouch spamming.
She is no slouch in a duel, and if she’s Valking she will kill w/e she wants tbh.
You have to consider the situations that you’re applying these statistics to. Just telling me soldier’s ROF and damage per shot really achieves nothing. I already know and have considered that.
The only people who play Lucio these days are DPS Lucios.
If you actually look at some of the older data, (especially from pre-Valkyrie Mercy), she starts to play much more even with Lucio. Plus, Lucio does a better job increasing the survivability. of the other support compared to Mercy.
Especially considering 1.0 Mercy was only played in Pharmercy (where her survivability is much higher).
The only thing I’ve discussed with you is telling you to stop making up bs because you’re trying to quote what I’ve said when it isn’t even in response to you.
You are the worst.
I’m sorry I hurt you bb. You do you. Good luck in proving w/e it is you’re talking about.
Good luck in taking more people’s words out of context :))))))))))))))))
Actually ironically those death stats are probably from August 2017. Just click on the usage button.
Although if you look at overbuff recently, Mercy is below Moira by a little.
Gonna sound harsh but honestly those that argue that Mercy is somehow more vulnerable than other supports really just don’t know wtf they’re talking about…
Nothing new when it comes to Mercy though, amirite? xD
Well Valkyrie (and GA bounce) are big increases in her survivability.
So, we’re back to my original argument.
Healing+Utility+Survival
Cumulatively Mercy has too much. And MultiRez probably isn’t going to happen.
And Valk probably isn’t going to get dumpstered. And Valk+Rez is always going to have high utility (unless they nerf it to the point of near uselessness, which isn’t gonna happen).
And nerfing her survival would hit low ranks harder than high ranks.
So healing is what’s left to nerf.
You need to explain this first.
Valkyrie, Resurrect and GA Bounce are the only new things. Thus, they need changes.
Unless they nerf it.
OP things get nerfed. It doesn’t have to be useless, but a longer cast time and a short Valkyrie duration would bring Mercy to a better place.