You can have a fair and transparent system and train yourself at same time, like don’t have a fair and transparente system and train yourself at same time.
Then no, are 2 different topics, is a pretty simple and logic concept. What you (and your pack) do is not debating, but opposition acitivity against specific users, despite what they are saying.
If I say A, you reply B, if I say B, you reply A.
And whatever I say about you, you deny, then insult me (or what else you and your pack want), then the mods ban one of your accounts for some days, then you return.
We are in the same loop from months.