Aim lab and OW2

so last year i tried aim lab on steam, and i could not get the right sensitivity to match my ow 2 sensitivity.

has anyone here had luck with aim lab and transferring their ow2 sensitivity to it?
or is it just not worth my time?

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The aim/sens in OW2 is bugged and/or rigged.

in-game sens changes randomly and the i/o is throttled to keep people from dominating lobbies. the dda tech kicks in, the hitboxes and regs scale to smooth out the match so that 10 hour accounts can contest 1000 hour ones.

You can do a fresh install, good hw, latest driver stack, aim labs all day. And you’ll still get throttled and lose to “cheaters” who aren’t cheating they’re just subject to some kind of aim assist. Particularly noticeable in xplay lobbies.

Some accounts get discriminated on more than others. Tested on multiple hardwares with different accounts and the aim assist/resist deltas are unreal.

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So what you have to do is do a 360 in OW and measure the distance on your pad. Then go into aim trainer and do a 360. Make the sens so the distances match.

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but the 360 distance in-game changes. especially before critical moments like some interaction vs. a noob player.
it’ll just bog you out.

like wth with this inclusion rigging?

I’m not sure. Mouse accel, or a bug? OW might have some issues itself. I know people were complaining about weird things before.

I know that sens doesn’t translate well to aim trainers, and you can generally get a good feeling if you measure it out.

Now, if you buy into the aim trainer fanatic’s schtick, a set sens doesn’t matter, and you should train at a bunch of difference sensitivities to stimulate your brain blah blah etc etc don’t go on their subreddits or you’ll get brainrot, but that’s their advice.

It’s a bug. Not really mouse accel. Reported several times. We suspect it’s just some garb DDA code that tries to muck with people’s i/o. It kicks in to try and stop what smurfs can get away with after spoofing their data and tricking the garb MM.

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Aimlab is a bad practice for ow game anyway, it is isolating mouse of strafes, when the strafes are the crucial part of the aim in ow.

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I would say aim trainers made me noticeably better at aiming in OW. I wouldn’t say they were a massive shortcut they promise to be. Definitely better than if I had just played, probably not worth the time invested, for me specifically. They have a bunch of scenarios that include strafe aiming, etc, but for me aim trainers are more about mouse control and hand eye coordination than anything more specific.

Really you should play them if you think they’re fun, and you’ll probably get something out of them along the way.

Aim trainers give a good base for novice, but if you want to push it to the limit then it won’t help but may do the opposite. After testing different warmup routines I ended up with overwatch bots as my preference instead of aimlab in terms of efficiency. It is always better to practice in a game you play. OW workshop is decent

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there are trainers for that.

and even OW ‘aim-training’ workshops? the mouse is fine against bots
but then you get into a rigged lobby and the mouse aim no workie

if it is time for some kid to be included,
your aim sens will change, you’ll miss shots, their hitboxes will get small, yours will get large, you’ll noreg, they’ll reg, and there will be miracle ults for no reason.

the in-game params scale to try and make close games.

Roi is poor beyond a point.

It helps most to people who are new to fps games.

But if you have been playing for years it does very little to improve your gaming experience.

try these on in hard mode A9FBX, those are moving better than GMs. If you get about 45% accuracy here you will look at these a-d crouch spammers in game like a joke.

hundreds of hours in those. it doesn’t matter. hence the bug reports.
something is definitely off when you try and transfer that muscle mem into your games.
the i/o stream is just buggy or throttled. we suspect it’s part of the DDA tech they have patented to try and punish griefers and give kids a chance.

projectile reg in-game is just total rng.
and yes you can bot a dodgebot to make projs basically always miss or noreg.

even with my best predicts, it’s a 1 in 9 guess (at least 9 d.o.f. in 3d space if you include hitbox rotations). they guess 8/9 of those d.o.f and u just miss the proj. I’m not talking about junkrat which we all know is for the accessability demographic.

my genji is like 1 pixel proj shots, make that 1 pixel match the 1 pixel out of a monitor of 4 million pixels. And the travel time is RNG based on lag and whatever other garbage code they have bloated in there. if your mouse crosshair is off by 1 pixel in space and time you just miss and lose.

but then i watch these crosshair killcams and it’s completely fake/rigged af.

whitelist a sheikh prince streamer with cash?
they’ll never miss.
the server will decide they can have 4 pharah accounts in the top ten.

Yes… I’m on the wrong PC to link you the site, but just google “sensitivity converter” and it’ll match whatever sensitivity you use in OW to what you use in Aim Lab.

Also, in Aim Lab, there is a setting where you can set it to a particular game… make sure you set it to OW.

EDIT: I found the site, here you go

h ttps://gamingsmart.com/mouse-sensitivity-converter/

Yeah, I think of it more as cross-training than as a replacement. My feeling is that if you’re ‘serious’ about an fps, you’re probably playing it 3 hours a day, and then on top of that you might use an aim trainer for specific work or if you’re bored.

As much as I dislike their whole pyramid scheme, Serious and Aimer7 are some of the world’s best aimers, and they’ve dropped thousands of hours into Kovaaks. The thing is they were already top players in their respective games before that. So their advice, while it has weight behind it, is a little iffy to me. It seems more like something you do because you like aiming, not because you want to get as good as they are.

What I think I got from aim trainers that I couldn’t from game is solid, consistent work in a wide variety of patterns and styles. You can definitely find your weak points with it, and I think you can get some good results, but like I said, I agree you should be playing the game you want to play before anything else. The most I got out of it, and I genuinely did get something out of it, was when I was putting a lot of time into it. In the end the grind wasn’t worth it to me, and also as you said, my aim was pretty poor beforehand, so mouse control helped a lot.

It did give me a few moments of ‘I can’t believe I did that’ in game though, and that was pretty cool.

Workshops are great, though. Some of the aim trainers are so well done. I don’t think anyone needs a Kovaaks. They should play it if they like it.

That is not a number tbh =) For consistency you should start from 5-6 hours a day and wide it up to 8-10 hours. When I play like 3 hours a day I feel like a complete pleb.

3 hours is scientifically the point where your eye tracking begins to change due to the game, which is why I used it. Whatever serious player’s time is, it’s definitely more than me!

Hey. Not to sound to rude or anything like that but…
Aim training and just doing random warm up routines isnt really aim training. If you do efficient aim training it can (mechanically) help you a lot ingame over a certain amount of time. A lot of people just dont know how to use them efficiently though.

I whole heartedly agree 100% and don’t understand how anyone can say “it doesn’t work”.

The thing with practice is that it’s like learning an instrument… you’re only going to get out of it what you put into it, and anyone saying “it doesn’t work” simply hasn’t put in the time.

Aim Lab increased my aiming abilities by leaps and bounds, no joke. I highly recommend it, or any other aim training application of your choice, to everyone who wants to improve their aim.

My friends watch me play and I get compliments all the time saying “holy cow bro, your aim!” but keep in mind, I have like 400hrs in Aim Lab at this point. Believe me when I say, it absolutely works.

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Wasn’t talking about anything random tho.