People also think they number 1 for that said hero thanks to overbuff which is silly.
And yeah, Junkrat, Torb, Symmetra, Bastion etc are all still considered Defense and Support. Makes zero sense what so ever.
Still more valid and objective than all the baseless anecdotal âevidenceâ which has been circulating the Forums foreverâŚ
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Well, even if overbuff isnât every single player, itâs still a sample size which you can consider. It wonât be 100% accurate, maybe all the sym players have private profiles and her pickrate is actually 17% but overbuff shows like 7%.
I donât think it should be used to back an argument, I think it can be useful information to add to an argument.
I remember over a year ago there was a plat Lucio player who posted a thread with one of those stat sites that said he actually should be a top500 player.
And that was the downfall of people trusting third party sites. Seems their making a return though.
The sample size on Overbuff is still large enough to be cited as credible. It may not be a truly random sample size, but itâs still good data.
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According to Overbuff Im a super torb (Or rather was). Git Gut.
PS Overbuff is simply inaccurate, thats it.
So can you inform me of what Overbuff says the damage increase was from Symmetra pre-bugfix compared to after? Because Blizzard said it was a 40% damage increase, which is why she was nerfed so quickly. Not because sheâs hated, as many Sym threads wanted to say.
If Overbuff shows a similar increase in her damage output, Iâll believe it to be more accurate. But if the data you find does not support what Blizzard says, I will continue to believe that those who rely on Overbuff are simply grasping at straws.
Yes, and no. Typically those who use overbuff want to compare their stats to other individuals. Theyâre the people who will want to improve based on their own performance. Naturally that will curve the stats a little higher than what the average will be compared to new players or accounts who donât turn off private profiles. With that being said however, you also need to consider that is still a highly competitive, and large proportion of the player base, with a good amount of the casual player base thrown into it as well. The sample size from that alone would typically level out the numbers, not to be truly 100% accurate, but still close enough to give you a pretty great estimate of the standings in what ever stats youâre looking for.
So yes, overbuff is skewed, but it is still more than reliable regardless of what people would have you believe because the numbers go against their arguments.
Same reason they still have the defense category. Old layout that never got updated. It really doesnât hurt any stats but pick rate, and only when sorting in those categories. The overall pick rate across every hero is still highly accurate.
Itâs not impossible. Mercy during moth showed us exactly why with her 17%. The pickrate percent is determined by how likely it is to have that hero on any given team. There are six slots on a team that hero can be in. So, a hero who is a must pick, will be on every single team, with a pickrate of 16.67. Basically, theyâre guaranteed to be in one of those 6 spots on every team, on both sides.
Now if somebody on that team switches off that hero, and somebody on the exact same team then switches onto that hero⌠that hero has taken up two slots on a team through-out the match. People were doing exactly this with Mercy during moth. Now that same hero has a higher than 100% chance to be on any given team, given they were on that same team twice.
So, no. itâs not impossible for a hero to be 16%. And itâs entirely possible for them to go over 16%.
Yea thatâs safe to assume. Especially without knowing the exact inner workings of the system, player-to-player comparisons are biased towards the thousands of now unused accounts. Personally I never trusted any of those to begin with because the most accurate system we could want is already in game, anything else that says âyou belong in a different rankâ is just going off of less data using what is probably a less sophisticated algorithm. (Not saying the in-game MMR is perfect, just better than what a third party site in it just for the ad revenue is capable of.)
But hero statistics and pickrates are different. Particularly on Overbuff, it only looks at matches from recent history. Meaning if you havenât played for months, you wonât bias todayâs stats. And if you only come in and play a few games, your influence is only as strong as those few games, its not like anything spikes as it takes year old data and suddenly incorperates it into todayâs matches.
Unfortunately, Overbuff doesnât keep a consistent log of stats like Damage, similar to how they do with pickrates. Because of that, I have no reference starting point to compare todayâs stats with. Now, thatâs not to say that the site hasnât shown an increase, just that I canât directly prove it since I donât know of a record from that time.
Now, remember that does NOT prove the site is or isnât reliable in other areas, just that we canât use it to determine this one specific data point.
What I can say though is the few times where the devs have referenced things such as pickrates, they have matched what Overbuff said almost exactly. So as far as that goes, thereâs little reason to doubt it beyond baseless conspiricy.
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Because only people interested enough to look up how well they fare against other people are in the sample group. This means people serious enough to care and know about it, which means the whole âcasualâ player base is not represented in the sample group.
The average stats of a casual plat Soldier is the same as the tryhard soldier, otherwise they wouldnât be the same rank.
Not necessarily, since there are more characters than Soldier. Maybe the ones that uses Overbuff are better and worse with other characters than the average population. They would still have the same rank but they would not have the same stats on the different characters. Maybe for example the Overbuffers have high win rate with a niche character while the rest do not. Or that certain characters are more popular among the Overbuffers than the casuals. Or higher and lower winrates on all characters. I am not saying that all this is more likely than not. All I am saying is that we can not know for sure. Therefore we should always take these statistics with a grain of salt.
You should study statistics.