A Samito video that many will get behind

I guess I’ll watch later.

From my perspective, fixing Overwatch is easy.

Do most balance changes by first putting it on PTR for a short while, then push all the balance changes to Quickplay that can be done by Variables Changes. Wait a week on that, and push to Comp. Then later push whatever code changes there were remaining on PTR whenever it’s convenient.

Make a VGS system (Like TRIBES), or another communications wheel with tons of options (like in Payday 2)

Balance snipers. 2.1x headshot multiplier for Widow. 25 damage on barriers for StormArrow.

Make it so if you get an AFKer/Leaver in the first 30sec in Competitive, that it just grabs another player, and restarts the match.
Instead of kicking 11 players back into queue.

Increase Tank usage by winning a game on Tank gets you a “DPS Queue Boost Ticket”, that isn’t exactly measured in time, but makes for very quick queues in Gold/Plat, but is less effective in smaller population groups. But it might cut the DPS queue time in half in Diamond.

Oh yeah, and fix footsteps noises. Roadhog and Reaper are often nearly silent. Which actually throws off the balance a bit.

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You mean break snipers. You should have watched the video, it detailed the issue with high skill cap heroes being unplayable.

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Do explain why you think he is wrong. You know, without resorting to personal attacks and actually counter the argument itself.

I didn’t make one personal attack. I just said I turned it off. Nothing I said was a personal attack at all.

And halt is the problem with Orisa.

I always thought she was created as a Rein alternative. Even during peak of dive Rein was still the most popular tank outside of the highest ranks (mainly because nobody outside those ranks knew how to play Winston properly).

Isn’t this the same guy who smurfed in lower ranks as Moira and claimed she was OP?

This guy can sod off. Trying to preach about fixing the game when he was part of the problem lmao

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Don’t bring Samito into the forum. Dude, I’m still shocked at the old samito thread about his mental breakdown-

They’ll instantly disagree.

Well, it isn’t a personal attack per se. It was more in line with discrediting him based on his past stances and opinionated impressions of his person.

Explain why. Single statements do not suffice. Why do you think Fortify isn’t a problem by how the way Samito described it in the video, but halt is (which Samito also touched on in the video).

I think all these threads created about this guy have only for purpose to advertise him.
That shouldn’t be allowed…

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I just can’t take a dude that rages and screams like a spoiled preschooler seriously.

Right or wrong, dude is : entitled, emotional, egocentrical, subjective, disrespectful… Not well spoken in short.
So even if he’s right, I’ll tend to doubt every single word that comes out of his mouth.
If he wants people to listen to him he’s gonna have to change his attitude and word choice.
Rhetoric’s are a thing, and a skill. You can preach for world peace and still sound like you wanna murder everyone and don’t care about anyone while doing it…

Also I don’t agree with 80% of what he’s saying here and it doesn’t make sense to me
“If you’re playing dive into Mei, you just lose…”
Oh really Samito, so that whole year and a half when dive was meta, pro’s just had to pick Mei?
Jesus…
Yeah I know that’s not what he meant probably, but that’s just how trash his communication is.

Because they would argue it better and word it better. Talk like Samito and enjoy being misunderstood (which is questionable ofc) if not disliked.

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A few things I noted (note, I am paraphrasing Samito’s statements…not directly quoting).

Uh…what? Orisa has literally had Fortify since she was created. I think he means that the cooldown improvements were given as an attempt to help her stand up to GOATS, in which case…fine. Maybe revert its cooldown back to where it was, and then see where she is in the meta. Orisa seemed to be strong right before and right after GOATS was created, so she’ll probably be alright with just a revert.

True, but the devs have stated that they’ve moved away from “situational” characters because those characters don’t work. They originally planned for characters like Symmetra, Orisa, Torbjorn, etc., to good in specific situations–but they’ve moved away from that because those characters either wind up being way too weak or way too strong, and the game itself actively disincentivizes switching due to Ult charge and the presence of one-tricks.

…No. Graviton is an Ult that leaves a team trapped and immobile for several seconds. Halt is not comparable to that.

The two are not comparable. The Doomfist v Soldier issue is something that can be addressed by directly tweaking the way those heroes interact. The Orb issue is true for literally any projectile. If Junkrat shoots grenades across the map, you can’t do anything. If Hanzo shoots arrows across the map, you can’t do anything. If Symmetra shoots right-clicks across the map, you can’t do anything. The only argument I think you could possibly make is “But Moira’s orb goes through shields.” Okay, and if it didn’t, then she’d just do the same thing Ashe does with her Dynamite: either wait for the shield to turn/go down or throw it ABOVE the shield.

The only Dive hero who has no real counter play against Mei is Hammond. Winston can bubble himself and both he and D.Va can shift out if it gets dangerous. (Because, if you know the enemy team has hard CC, you don’t leap in. That’s one of the first things I learned about Dive in a VOD.) As a Hammond main, I’m 200% onboard with reducing how horrible that matchup is for Hammond. But I don’t think Winston and D.Va have it as hard as you claim.

Here’s the exact reason i think the “mechanically demanding” argument is BS. Even if we discount Brigitte, NeptUno (one of the best Support players in OWL) feels that Mercy is harder than people give her credit for. Even Seagull once stated that it’s hard to play Mercy at a high level. I once watched Beeftipsy attempt a Bronze to GM Mercy stream and he got hardstuck in Gold while screaming “Why is this so hard, dude!?”

Even both of those characters aside, how is Orisa in any way LESS mechanically-intensive than Reinhardt? The only thing Samito says to back this up is that the “Reinhardt v Reinhardt interaction is amazing” but that’s stupidly subjective and in itself enforces meta stagnancy. Why can’t the Orisa vs Sigma interaction be amazing, or Orisa vs Winston, or Orisa vs Hammond? If the argument is “Orisa is boring”, then that’s–yet again–subjective.

That’s pretty much everything I took immediate issue with. There are other things I don’t necessarily agree about, but I don’t want to write a 10,000 word essay.

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The following doesn’t encompass 80% of what he said. More like 2%

Mei didn’t have multi freeze back then. He specifically mentioned multi freeze.

I don’t think his communication was trash here. It’s just that people are listening to him with burning pitchforks ready in their hands.

No. I specifically said: word for word. That means take everything that Samito said, in the same exact body, tone, and presentation, literally plagiarize every letter he uttered, and then read it in ML7’s voice.

People would completely worship ML7, but automatically bash Samito, even when they say the exact same thing.

I mean, reading the above comments, half of the posters automatically pulled the “Lol Samito” card without properly addressing his arguments individually. I honestly appreciate the ones who actually addressed his points only instead of resorting to such childish tactics of arguing.

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The new patch may force double shield to be a thing. One shield in the new patch appears to be too weak.

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If barriers are weaker, you will pick fewer of them. That’s how it works…

Okay okay, fair enough, I did skip through the video a bit…

Well… Yeah, okay, true…I’m guilty of this

In my case, I’d listen to ML7 atleast (i don’t do worship). Seeing Samito on some daily twitch feed, just makes me skip out of annoyance.
Cuz tbh people who rage and flame and tend to be hot headed don’t seem like they care about the game, even if they say something smart it comes off more as a rant than an argument.
But you’re right, the community is at a point where they are not giving Samito a chance even

I don’t know yet. I imagine dropping the shield in the backline for Anna or other healing supports, then “charge” forward. I will give the new patch a chance. I have a more sympathetic view towards the DPS role.

Breaking shields for DPS is just too difficult for them when they break off and play with the “I wanna carry the game” mentally.

It’s ok. The new patch is coming. You will finally have your way. No cover. Expose all targets. The only problem then will be for the healers.
Orisa tanky? Who cares.

Destroy healers first. Leave tanks for last.

That is my hypothetical view of the new patch. I haven’t played it yet. I may play it a week or so before posting on the new patch after it goes live.

I don’t like him much, but I also don’t hate him, for as much as these forums whine and whinge about them being victims of directed hate, they love to dish it out and take satisfaction in people being in pain. They say the support category is oppressed by DPS and in the same breath yell for buffs to their own and call for nerfs to “Braindead” dps players tools, they’re hypocrites, and they so desperately yell IM A VICTIM (of the exact things they’re about to do to everyone else because they aren’t principled, they are TRIBAL in nature, goes without saying, that’s something I hate)

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She was released around the time where Snipers were troll picks.
She was designed to be an “anchor” tank like Reinhardt, which at the time wasn’t doing very well for himself.

Rienhart only put up his shield against sniper in hopes someone on the team would use it to counter snipers.

Instead, they run ahead like happy misguided puppies. :dog2:

Orisa is able to place the shield and suppress the sniper while the rest of the team went in.

Now you just hurt my Rein’s heart T^T

Oh god I just realized what I just typed in.