Oh! I wasn’t clear, I feel that way as well. I’ve always thought it would be a good idea if the OW team did it and have suggested it for years - over a decade if we include WoW and not just OW.
People would moan about the devs being lazy and such, but some people would moan about anything so I don’t see it as a downside.
In the comics they kinda ran into the problem of Sue being useless in most situations the FF ran into, so they gave her the ability to create powerful forcefields. She might actually be a tank.
lets be real here: for a new release, rivals hero design is on point and the balance isnt half bad. but they dont leave it there: they let the community cook and ban heroes that are too strong, GIVING the players agency over the game they want to play.
the open queue format leads to more flexing, more teamplay and more creativity.
in ow, ppl just onetrick all matter of heroes making them all bad because they are not allowed to shine if something is even a little off.
i also dont get the sense that rivals really has hardcounters. sure some heroes are better against some than others, but its not like you absolutely cant get value if a certain hero is picked against your hero.
all in all, marvels is really impressive and i have to agree with ppl like freedo and spilo: they modelled rivals after ows “golden era”. they are trying to kill ow by giving the players an experience thats closer to ow1 than ow has been for years.
Open queue and hero bans kill the competitive scene, you can’t see aimgods pop off, boring as hell to watch with hero bans.
open queue is just toxic as hell if not running 2-2-2 you’re at a HUGE disadvantage
They do everything else right though, make heroes feel like heroes and the roles are close to eachothers power levels. Still need 2 tanks/ 2 supports tho…
I am sorry, but Hela and Hawkeye are broken. They get banned, because they are OP. If you only can perform with those heroes, then you are not as good as you think you are.
Also, Hero banns start at Diamond and I seriously dont think a gold/silver OW player will get Diamond in Rivals lol
Praising open queue is kinda It just further solidifies losing at the hero select screen. The enemy may be running a more sensible comp, meanwhile your team wants to troll and run some whimsical ish like 4 DPS, or 4 supports, or no tank.
I can’t imagine that happening in competitive where the stakes are probably a lot higher lol. I wouldn’t even bother trying honestly.
I literally only played competitive to get the moon knight skin, with a 90% win rate on hela, 30 elims per 10. I would grind comp for grand master but bans make it pointless and not having role queue is lame.
Quickplay is super fun though, get to stomp players
hero bans SAVE the competetive scene by broadening the meta and letting the highest players have agency over gatekeeping heroes that would otherwise dominate the meta
your second point: it shows you havent played marvel rivals in an elo above silver or in ranked at all. 2-2-2 is absolutely not a given. ive seen comps in diamond and even higher with 3 supports 1 tank, 3 supports 2 tanks, 1 tank 2 supports 3 dps.
the only think i will hand to you is that solosupport usually doesnt work. unless its luna snow (which is buffed this season anyways)
they have not patched the balance yet and yet we already discovered way more strong combinations, team up combos and sleeper picks than youd think.
It just further solidifies losing at the hero select screen. The enemy may be running a more sensible comp, meanwhile your team wants to troll and run some whimsical ish like 4 DPS, or 4 supports, or no tank.