☢️the REAL problem with Mercy

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I want to give everyone a clear sight on what mercy mains really mean when they said mercy needs a buff/rework

I’m starting by saying mercy does NOT need a healbuff out of her ultimate, her healing accuracy is 100% so it wouldn’t make sense for her healing to be more than 50.
(edit: after a lot of consideration and people convincing me in this thread, maybe mercy can use 55-60 hps)

however, here’s the REAL problem: Mercy does not feel like a main healer nor an off healer because she cannot outheal the main healers and she doesn’t have an effective ultimate that is as impactful as the off healers’ ultimates,
ie: her ultimate is not a defensive ult.

Lucio, zen, and Brigitte (the off healers) all have defensive ults that can counter damage pretty good, unlike valkyrie

moria, ana, and Baptiste (the main healers) have way better heals than mercy.

if you play mercy, you need a main healer with her, if you do, you won’t have a defensive ult.

therefore, if blizzard wants mercy to be a main healer, they should buff and improve valkyrie’s healing by making it stronger but shorter duration.

if blizzard wants mercy to be an off healer, they should somehow make her defensive or improve rez by maybe cutting off rez’s CD, probably make it 20 seconds but if it’s stunned/stopped a penalty comes with 35-40 seconds cd?

overall mercy isn’t “underpowered” but she’s not as viable as other healers for being in a weird position where she’s an off healer without a defensive ultimate/utility.

finishing off with saying:
as a mercy main with 500+ hours on her (psn and pc) I can confidently say that NO, MASS REZ SHOULD NOT COME BACK IN ANY WAY.

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Remember that Rez is the most powerful ability in the game. That’s where the problem is. Until they get rid of that (which they won’t) there is no argument to improve her healing output.
Get rid of Rez and you could alter her

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I agree. Unless the things on an ultimate button, the things too damn powerful. Hell, even as an ultimate it was a bit much.

Back then it was fixable: Remove invulnerability, reduce the max targets that could be revived. Now?

No chance, sadly. Just get rid of it.

Would be nice to see some band aid fixes while we wait though, doubt we’ll get them, but would be nice.

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making her a main healer is the better idea in my opinion. it’s easier to make her a main healer rather than a defensive off healer.

i also would like to see mercy somehow more skill based than what she is now, better utility but riskier penalties would be nice, maybe the idea i suggested for rez isnt good but anything like this would be appreciative.

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My problem with Mercy is rarely her actual output, I can do some things with her, she’s like, kiiiinda effective, I guess… But there’s honestly just nothing special about playing her. There used to be, back when you could do a big res or make active choices on your clutch resses; deciding to spend your ultimate on your all star DPS McCree so he can keep pwning vs. holding onto it because it’s not worth it to waste an ult on just one person, etc.

There’s no active THOUGHT with mercy anymore other than just… fly here, fly there, beam this guy, beam that guy, other beam, there’s no real ABILITIES for her to actively do or work with because the chance to res people comes up so rarely in game that it’s just… It’s like Sym’s Teleporter. It’s a non-active ability. It’s a thing your character has, and yeah you kinda engage with it, but it’s not a concussion grenade or a flashbang or boop or nade, y’know?

edit: I mean, just think of how many times you get to res someone in game. vs boop someone or throw a nade. You could easily throw… 20-30 nades in a match, right? How many resses, 2, 3? I rarely get more than that, some matches I see really skilled Mercy’s get like, 6, but even that’s pushing it. So you have an ability you get to use maximum six times in a 5-10 minute game? Yeah, that feels real active.

I miss old res, because at least then Mercy felt like a character I was actively choosing to do things with rather than just being this umbilical healbot.

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I keep saying she is fine and balanced the way she is. Dont @ me

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not all mercy mains want a buff or a rework

To me, Mercy is now and always has been a main healer

When I play Mercy on a team with another healer - any healer, including but not limited to the ones you listed above - I almost always get the gold healing medal…meaning I outhealed the others as Mercy

For me, Mercy is fun to play, effective, and well balanced.

Given this I dont see her as underpowered or in need of an changes aside from bugfixes

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Well it must be nice to be so satisfied with her. She was the first character I ever got really good with and I miss her feeling like an active, engaging healer.

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Mercys most powerful ability is damage boost.
The problem with her is that she is heavily teamreliant and her strength is not completely independent. If Hanzo or Widow is meta, Mercy is a lot stronger, in Brawl comps she is a lot weaker

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I’d assume these changes I came up with would be good for OP:

Mercy

Caduceus Staff

  • Healing increased from 50 to 55 health per second

Resurrect

  • Cast-time reduced from 1.75 to 1.5 seconds

  • Movement speed penalty reduced from -75% to -65%

  • Cool-down reduced from 30 to 28 seconds

  • No longer can be interrupted due to distance from the target

Valkyrie

  • Ultimate cost increased from 1820 to 1940 points

  • Duration reduced from 15 to 12 seconds

  • Healing increased from 60 to 75 health per second

  • Damage boost increased from 30% to 35%

  • Regeneration self-healing increased from 20 to 25 health per second

  • Resurrect cast-time reduced from 1.75 to 1 second

  • Caduceus Blaster no longer has infinite ammo

  • Caduceus Blaster fire-rate increased by 20%

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I out-heal the other support close to 90% of the time with Mercy. They can pick Moira, Baptiste, whoever.

Valk is basically a team fight win button.

This is largely true. If you are regularly trying to use Valk as such, that is sub-optimal. At the same time, 60x5 HPS is nothing to scoff at.

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Valk is pretty strong as an offensive ult.
Engage with 30% damage buff for all is pretty brutal

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mercy mains as in the ones who are making the threads/topics, maybe i wasnt clear on that.

you’re saying this without backing up any facts or evidence if she’s a main healer then run her with Lucio or zen, you can’t.

that is because your other main-healer sucks. won a game? the dps main you pocketed probably outdone themselves.

fun is subjective, she is balanced but in the wrong way and no, she is not as effective as other healers unless if you have a smurf dps or a pharah.

overall your response is very stale and isnt backed up by anything :confused:

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i wish they would put her rez as an ultimate and make her ability(replacing rez) a skill that pumps out higher healing

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Brigitte is not a strict off healer anymore, nor is she a strict main healer. Rally is also not a defensive ultimate.

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if it is, then that’s a problem. mercy should either have enough healing to be a main healer or have a defensive ult instead.

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She can exist in between.
She is not very engaging, I acknowledge that as a problem, but nonetheless she is still viable

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I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. Mercy is being held back because the devs want rez in the game and until its removed buffing her will be tricky due to them having to be balancing around the rez. Therefore the 20sec cooldown you want will never happen. The only changes I can see possibly happening are qol changes like beam not disconnecting when popping valk.

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I like this overall, however, I have some comments

people will complain about her rez being “not counterable” since they always boop her, but if you mean distance by mercy being able to walk as far then yes I agree, but her rez should stay cancelable by booping.

I don’t think that should happen since people already complain from mercy being hard to kill during valkyrie, I think what should happen is mercy insta-healing herself to 200 hp once she clicks Q but not being able to regen while taking damage, or maybe 10 hps regen.

controversial but I don’t know about this one.

but yeah this is really good though, maybe it’ll be 10 seconds.

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Mercys main problem is that she has rez at all. You cant buff her other stuff BECAUSE of it. She becomes a must pick again if she has the output of a main healer and can also rez teammates.

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