Oh and I just relized
“Combat Roll being able to be used in the air is a nice quality of life change, but it is also a potentially powerful change when fighting against heroes with big vertical knockbacks such as Doomfist and Wrecking Ball.”
Looks like they dont want Mccre to be countered as well
I didnt even notice this but yeah you’re right, junkrat will oneshot tracer now.
Overall its not a bad change, rewards being close, less rewarding to random spam.
its probably more of a nerf to ball + dva + sombra + tracer synergy, which is meta on KR and EU and good on NA after OWL. Cowboy is the only robust dps hero that is allowed to counter dive so they have to buff his ability to survive a dive that isn’t his flash fan because dva and sombra wont let that happen.
The fact that it nerfs doom as well tho is just kinda irrelevant. Doom is such a backwards hero and is getting reworked anyway but dang even I feel bad for those doom mains now LOL
rat and mcree buffs? Blizz needs to change this balance staff
Implying he wasn’t OP before.
nano junkrat one shots 225 heroes in 15m range now with primary fire
The problem with this is that if you put too much power into her turrets, she is going to die regardless.
She only has three turrets, they have a 10 second cooldown, and they are not guaranteed damage - they need to already be placed and active to do damage, and if you are in an area that doesn’t have them you’re just SOL. The fact that she only has three means there is usually 2 avenues to ‘get at’ Sym without even going past her turrets on the majority of maps, and many heroes have movement abilities that let them get past them without taking much if any damage; Hammond, Pharah, Sombra, Tracer, Reaper, Moira, etc.
If you’re saying Sym needs to have a turret near her to survive a fight, that’s just bad hero design - especially when her turrets are not plentiful, take forever to set up, are so easy to destroy, and have such a long cooldown. The animation time on them ‘unfurling’ is 1 second longer than it used to be, and that’s to say nothing of the ‘float time’ in mid air while they travel.
Popping a turret up to win a 1v1 fight is no longer viable, you will be dead long before the turret activates - and I know, because this used to be my primary way to win a 1v1 fight. Pop a turret on the ground, pop your shield, and do a shield dance while making the enemy choose between fighting you or your turret; now you can’t do anything close to that.
Torbjorn’s shotgun is bad because of low DPS and the inherent unreliability that results from a shotgun having a low pellet count. It has been bad ever since they changed it from a possible 125 per shot to 105 per shot. Having it use less ammo is not really going to fix that so the only real change is that @ 2 ammo per right click he can fire his entire clip during 5 seconds of overload without reloading.
The overload change from 10->8 seconds is kind of a big deal though, because that’s already one of the best abilities in the game. Not enough people appreciate how good it really is.
+100 armor, +30% movement speed, +40% firing rate and reload speed, for 5 seconds
If it was on any hero besides torbjorn, it would be an ultimate ability.
This change will help strengthen an ability that is often considered fairly weak compared to other heroes’ ultimates.
And doomfist???
If you balance around her being a duelist and then she can have a turret near her as well then she becomes op tho imo
I just play a lot more campy ig, so I always have that self peel already set up
ANYWAYS, agree to disagree. I didnt play sym for >1 year and deranked 700+ sr on her so ignore me
and we have been waiting for this for 3 months?
I tend to leave my turrets closer to the fight, because you get faster ult charge and her wall - while stupid and I hate it - is valuable for certain moments. If I leave turrets in the back to ‘protect me’ and do self peel, then they are basically wasted for the majority of fight time and you generate your ult really slowly.
It’s a cost/benefit problem, and Sym just doesn’t have the budget for much, and it’s because the devs won’t let her be decent.
Yep, and in upper ranks she’s typically average depending on the meta. At lower ranks she’s rarely a problem.
I agree completely.
this just in- every hero can “abuse” that, and it also makes it harder for Tracer to hit you as well. No movement acceleration is an intended game mechanic of the game.
They buffed Meteor Strike a while ago I think. Made it charge his cooldowns really fast.
These are uh, interesting changes. I like the Torb buffs but I’m not sure about the other ones
This has got to be one of the worst balance patches in the history of the game. I sure hope this mess doesn’t hit live.
Every hero doesn’t have movement acceleration, but the only hero that benefits more from it than Tracer is baby Dva.
When your main defense and balance is centered around your tiny hitbox and fast movement, you stand to benefit the most by no movement acceleration.
Breaking this down.
McCree.
Torbjorn.
Junkrat.
Junkrat has really gone on a weird journey balance wise.
Moira.
Overal some changes are good, some are questionable and some I expect will be offset by nerfs to their ultimates down the line.
His combat roll usable in air not only allows him the ability to dodge/escape from certain CC, but it also gives him extra roll outs that aren’t possible right now without it.
Its more than just a quality of life change, its a significant buff in moments where it matters.