Just FYI, I don’t abandon lobbies. The penalties are far too steep for me to ever do it on purpose–the immediate loss of 600 POINTS, plus having to win 2 QM games. That’s at least a dozen or more games I have to play to make up one bailed lobby.
Twice in the past month, though, Murphy’s Law – I’ve crashed while in the ranked lobby. 1200 points gone for accidental disconnect. That’s just insane.
I agree with having penalties for leaving the lobbies of ranked games, for whatever reason. But can we make the penalties more reasonable? 200 point loss and 2 QM games is PLENTY of punishment for what amounts to a relatively small infraction.
i agree tbh - 600 is like losing 3 ranked games so making it - 200 would be fair enough with leaver penalty cause - 200 is what you lose if you lose the match why make it like you lost 3 ranked games in a row for disconnecting during draft?
They already fixed this issue guys. It is called “penalty redemption”. You earn 50 points back for free in your following games lose or win the only condition is not to go afk again until you earned all points back. Before the 600 points were gone forever.
I’ve played 5,820 matches of HOTS. You know, there has been the rare occasion where I’ve had to leave a match because something in the real world happened. Or because I got dumped out of the lobby in a ranked game. You would think that the leaver flag would reset at some point, but it doesn’t ever seem to. Again, overzealous penalizing.
Doesn’t start at 2. Starts at 0. At 0 penalty you get no leaver games at all, just point loss.
I had DC issues a few months ago. It increases by 1, up to 4.
2 means you left 3 games recently.
You would think that the leaver flag would reset at some point, but it doesn’t ever seem to. Again, overzealous penalizing.
Takes about a dozen games to push it back by 1 game. The minimum is 0. So to completely reset a 2 game penalty back to 0 for your next DC, play roughly 30 (human) games without disconnecting.
It’s not based on games played but time. Every 3 weeks you can leave a game without ever getting leaver penalty, I do it all the time with my friends when we get somebody with troll pick on our team. The higher the penalty player accumulates the longer it takes to reset it, each time increasing by one additional week. So if somebody has 2 leaver games(first leaver penalty is 0, second 1, third 2) it means 3+1+1 weeks to reset it. If they leave again during that time it means they have to wait 3+1+1+1 weeks again to reset it.
the penalties are fine tbh. the real problem is there is no ready button before entering a draft for prevention of ppl that entered queue and went afk. also, and this has happened to me numerous times, where you cancel a game and it still connects you anyway. i have to believe that there is some edge case there for DC’s as well that could cause issues when connecting to games. the ready button helps to solve that kind of thing.
as far as DC while already in lobby?
well intentional or not its all the same. the penalty for that has been worked out over a long period of time through trial and error. at one point it was actually a lot less. the result being ppl would just leave draft and not care about the penalty.
I never said it resets leaver que if you had bothered the read what I wrote but the way penalties stack. It takes roughly 3 weeks till you can dodge a draft for free. I do this constantly with my friends to avoid clownfiesta games. If you only wait 2 weeks and dodge you end up getting leaver que penalty. See that 3 weeks is how long it takes to reset the system. If I do dodge again only 2 weeks after my “free” dodge I would have 1 leaver que and I would have to wait 4 weeks to get free dodge again. If I dodge another game within next 4 weeks timer once again starts all over and another week is added so I would have to wait 5 weeks with 2 leaver que games. Then 6 weeks and 3 games and after that 7 weeks and 4 games which is the max. You were claiming that is based on number of games, saying you need roughly 30 human games without disconnecting to abolish the penalty which is false. You can play 30 games easy in day or two, dodge and still see the increase in leaver que games because it is based on time, not number of games played as you claimed.
This just shows that penalties should sometimes become harsher.
1 leave every 3 weeks is still too often:
With 3 games a day, that turns into 21 per week. so 1 leave every 63 games
sure, it sounds like a 2% rate. But if all players do this, it means that at most 20% of the games would face a leaver (and more likely its going to be somewhat lower like 15%).
1/5 or 1/6 games is still too common.
But thats why i think they used games anyway and not time. You probably just play enough games in those 3 weeks to offset the penalty.
I do, but 3 of my friends do not. They play only every monday for about 2 hours. So if it is based on games it would be 5-6 games since they often skip a week, sometimes 2 weeks and can still dodge again on the third week. That is why I’m certain it’s based on time as every time 3 weeks have passed they are able to dodge without penalty.
I’m not sure if I understood you correctly. If you mean it is based both on time + games, then I could understand.
But waiting it out by logging out for 3 weeks then coming back to no leaver queue certainly does not work. Since I have such an account that has had 3 leaver games since 2018 and they have not decayed in any way or form.
If you meant you play games during those 3 weeks then I understand them decaying back to 0 (from 1). Meaning your next dodge is free of penalty (only point loss)
I also did that to avoid some pretty trolly drafts, in a way I felt it was justified (such as 3 assasins + Murky when I went healer)
It’s not about clearing the leaver game, those you have to play. It’s about how they build up if you keep leaving. Let’s say you you’ve been leaving games non-stop so you have gotten max penalty of 4 leaver games. Then you
A) take a break for year. Clear those 4 games and then dodge another draft. How many leaver games will you get now? 0. You have let the punishment reset so you got none.
B) You keep playing. Clear 4 games and then dodge another draft. How many leaver games will you get now? 4. The que hasn’t reset since you didn’t wait 3+1+1+1+1 weeks like you would’ve done with your years break.
Permission to use forums would be one good form of penalty, but then again same people would find different scream bloody murder for lack of user or technical support. Then again considering how little support they provide on their own forums in favour of other platform such as Twitter, no one would be at a loss.
Wasn’t it only 500 points? With 50 back for the next 10 games?
Yes… yes it was… and the even a further 5 years later necro they are still wrong:
Leaving a Ranked Draft Lobby or Ranked Match results in a 500 Skill Point penalty. You will slowly redeem points lost due to a penalty if you win several matches.