Developer Comment: These changes should help address both queue times for certain party sizes while also removing the pre-game bias that forms when facing parties of players that may be larger than your own. In order to ensure fair matches are created, one of the variables used to determine whether a match has an acceptable win probability is the party size. In the event the party sizes across both teams aren’t equal ([5]vs[1-1-1-1-1] for example), other variables will be weighted differently to make sure the match created is balanced. One example of this is that a team of [5] may have a lower MMR vs a team of [1-1-1-1-1] to help balance out the advantage.
Wouldn’t it would be easier just to make 5 vs 3+2, 5 vs 4+1, 5 vs 2+2+1, 5 vs 3+1+1 instead of outright 5 Vs 1+1+1+1+1? Plus, no amount of high MMR of 5 random solo players can overcome a decent MMR team with perfect coordination, communication, and composition synergy unless those full premade are pure Bronze/Silver players.
5 vs 1+1+1+1+1 should never never never a thing in the matchmaking, whether it is Storm league or Quick match.
Also, they should bring back Hero League if they are too lazy or unable to make a decent gaming experience for the solo players.
I mean, at some point you have to actually let a 5-man premade join a game. What’s the point of the party feature if the queue times won’t let you use it?
Also, I’ve seen premades lose to solos on multiple occasions. Make no mistake, the MMR disparity is there and it makes a difference.
@Monlyth Agreed on both counts. If they never let the 5 player party queue against anyone but another 5 player party, they could wait for an hour in queue without finding a match. Which will certainly not motivate these people to play more HotS.
Also, some 5 premades are not friends or communicating on voice chat. So not only are they applied a MMR penalty but they are complete strangers who just joined together for XP bonuses, giving the solo or mixed party a heavy advantage.
I am sure population plays a big factor here but it may also be possible that they’ve seen more people grouping up as a 5 man stack with the changes done to Stormleague, I’ve definitely seen more groups forming. So this might be in response to the growing demand as well due to changes in Storm league.
Is not from matter what be party size…
If players know how to play smart.
And yep…indeed this reason they do that…low.populatione.
We played to now.like that ,and again such solo teams had a chance to vs full groups.
Yeah, at the same time I also saw a lot of games where full premade destroyed 5 solo so hard you wonder whether those solo players are bronze player in those games.
I play almost exclusively solo. I have played EXCLUSIVELY, in brawl and qm, against 5 man premade teams since the patch. In case some of you didn’t understand that, every single game I’ve played since the changes has been against 5 man premade teams. Every one of them ranked, with thousands more hero levels than my team. One game I was grouped with 4 people, ALL BELOW ACCOUNT LEVEL 25. One of them was on their first game. And the other team had a cumulative hero level count of almost 9000.
As far as I’m concerned, this game is dead. End of story.
Honestly, there needs to be a pro to grouping up. You shouldn’t face off exclusively against premades if you’re in a group. This wouldn’t be a problem if the MMR and matchmaking were actually able to pair equally skilled teams against each other. Sadly, the MMR system is very hollow and does not actively grade player ability at all.
There is no point in bumbing this thread now when the party size rule is gone now. Why you think 5 man teams have so fast ques now. Cause they were waiting on an average 10min+ to get a game. Now they removed the party rule and they get ques within 30sec to 1 min now. But i do hope the mmr for the solo players are still higher then the premade team. If not. Then qm is dumbed down for good.
Yes, this type of game should never happen, but it happens all the time. Here on my server (latin america) there are players who ONLY PLAY quick match at dawn on 5 stacks to abuse the system, they have +80% win rate in the season with hundreds of games played, all achieved over new players in unbalanced games… and they are not even that good, some of this guys are only plat on raked (im diamond for example) but with a full stack on quick match they can have free wins all day, its pathetic.
Why would I do the same when i’m here saying this behavior is wrong, it’s dishonest… are u dumb? I appreciate the challenge, my friend, i dont like umbalanced matches, im not a cry bronze babe like u are trying to put here, im master, I don’t need to circumvent the system to be able to win.
You already said yourself you play on latin server that properly has just as low playerbase as Oceana/AZ server has so why do you think those people make the best out of thier games by going 5 man.
Thats what you tell yourself not me. Also being master in latin server is nothing. Thats equal to silver in eu.