Why is plat so trash

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This isn’t a rant after losing a match, it was stuck in my head for quite some time.

Why is this particular rank full of the worst kind of people and lowest skill?

Nobody plays as a team, people ignoring soak, no macro, bad talent choices with no regard to map or team composition etc.

Everybody thinks they are the best and loses are only because the other guys. Plats make no mistakes.

One example for all - had a game on sky temple with azmodan vs abathur and mobile heroes. Told him to take siege ult to splitpush because there was no way we can win a fight (we had stitches as a “tank” lol) and enemy had very bad waveclear. Free fort/keep every 90 sec. He took globe ult. Can’t hit a single one of them. After lose he tells me to go F myself and watch guide and youtube videos because siege ult is trash and always bad.

How is that that people in plat rank are worse than silvers or gold? Arent’t they supposed to be better the higher the rank? I get it that there are smurfs, but we’re talking here about people with 1000+ level.

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Moba players, in general, are just a bunch of lemmings. They look at what other people do & say, and they repeat it.

It’s that simple.

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TBH, you sound exactly like the plat players I passed through many times.

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Yea this is just a rant pretty much. Plats are about just as much better than golds as golds are silver. I have been hard stuck in low plat- mid diamond the past 3 seasons. Really not that hard to see the skill difference if you play enough.

If you’re a masters player then of course they are bad. Plats think silvers are bad. Fan thinks diamonds are bad. Its just the chain of ranks. If you’re hard stuck in plat then i hate to break it to you but you aren’t any better.

Good and bad are such subjective terms.

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Read example I gave before writing another stupid response.

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LoL, I read it. It’s just plat players obsess about macro and soak, and team comps, talent choices rather than actually playing well. I’m not saying those aren’t important, I’m just saying that’s what plat players prioritize and lose the bigger picture of how to climb.

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Been trying to figure that out myself.

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There’s a real answer to this. And I’ve said it many times before.

Climbing and playing are two totally different things.

In order to climb, you have to play silly gimmicks. This often involves avoiding actually playing the game, and abusing the fact that people in the current Elo have no idea what to do against certain things. And even if they know on paper, that’s all anyone is ever capable of, and nobody can make real time decisions, or anything of the sort.

However, playing is actually playing the game. It’s not trying to exploit some weakness in the Elo range’s playerbase, but rather, playing properly and well-rounded. Unfortunately, you will not climb the ladder this way, since you’re basically doomed to roughly 50% winrate because well-rounded playstyles become shackled to the RNG of “whose team is overall better?”

ALL THAT BEING SAID, if you’re in Plat or higher, the people that got there most likely got there by riding their gimmick strategy. Since… that’s primarily HOW you get there.

Now, if that’s how they GOT there, that means that might be all they know how to do. They are probably VERY bad actual players by definition of being in Plat+. And their gimmick isn’t working anymore either, and that’s also why you see them obsessed with all the PvE sh** but have no actual idea what’s going on.

It’s not to say all Plat+ players are this, but it only makes sense that a lot of them would be, or even most of them. Because of the whole climbing vs. playing element.

While people stuck in Silver or Gold are actually stuck because they’re sitting there trying to play their way out instead of gimmick. But yet, they might be way better than you’d think for a Silver or Gold, and might be way better than most Plat+ players as well. And they may be technically climbing, but it’s gonna be VERY slow. Because they’re not climbing. They’re merely playing.

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Personally, i like to think of it as “i could have done X to salvage this game”
Yeah, maybe my team REALLY dropped the ball but that doesn’t meant there wasn’t any number of things i coulda done better.
Besides, i aint taking them in to the next game, im taking me in to the next game.

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No matter what game I play I can reach at least around diamond rank.
And no matter how often I do it, I feel like I’m so very bad at the game.
To imagine that most people are worse…it’s baffling.

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every rank has massive amounts of bad players except really high GM.

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This sounds like a rant. And not for nothing if you hate every player you come across you probably hate yourself so get thst checked out

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^This. I’m between Platinum and Diamond, I’ve been able to maintain this rank after climbing there from Silver in the very first season, so in both HL and SL.

I’ve seen great players (some friends) in Plat and Diamond who have moved up to Masters. I have also been in games with those Masters vs GM’s where those GM’s made the Master players look like they were Bronze 5.

Many of the master players today are only there because many lifetime master players quit long ago, I know many of my master players friends did. I would say the skill level of the average Master player is lower than it was 3 years ago.

The qualifier here is, that is my opinion and it’s worth no more than the assertion in this thread that “all Plats are trash”, this is just an empty argument. The ladder is always in flux as is individual skill, some people are moving up, others down. So that “trash” Plat player today might be a Master in a couple of weeks.

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Thank you for admitting the skilllevel of the playerbase fell. That is an extremely unpopular opinion with the logical players because there is no objective “proof”

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Why is plat “so trash”?

  1. The whole of the playerbase isn’t all that good at HotS. However, since the ranking system is based on wins, someone has to end up climbing in the clashes of player population distribution. That method tends to bottleneck just before diamond, so some get stuck in plat.

  2. Plat is in the “high” skill region of gameplay, so players that get to that rank aren’t as likely to reroll and try to smurf to their “true rank” Players that are otherwise unhappy with the rank are either better than plat and move up, or they tend to be content with the rank and stew there.

  1. Due to smurfs/groups/whatever, lower ranks are supposedly full of ‘better’ players gaming the ranked system, so many players that get into play doesn’t actually ‘belong’ there. It’s easier for players to play along that it is to take charge, so some may ride the momentum of other players/teams, and then no longer have that guidance when they get into plat.

3a) As a variation of 3, once a player is in plat, they then think themselves above all that stuff from lower ranks, so now they’re content to show their “true skill” and just do whatever. Those sort of players tend to tote rank labels (oh you’re just gold, or I’m a higher plat than you) sort of nonsense.

But yea, simplest bit is pretty much: plat is “trash” because the “good” players don’t stay in plat. (either smurf to lower rank, or climb to diamond/master)

And to some, diamond isn’t really all that much better anyway, or at least not till higher diamond do things kinda improve.

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sounds very eu like but hey diamond isnt better

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If plat players are so bad just climb out of it

If you do then you’re just better than them and cannot speak objectively

If you do not then you’re just as bad.

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I think it has, but I was really just stating the opinion of my master friends who quit the game over the past 3 years. They were rank one in preseason and lifetime masters in both HL, TL and SL.

They mostly quit because they felt there was a lack of challenge to the game and when SL was made but with no group finder outside of Discords, they got fed up with trying to carry people who were boosted to master rank.

That’s their words not mine, as I’m a Plat trash scum. :sunglasses:

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On the flipside ive encountered some former HL gms in high diamond due to rank decay. They had a good amount of games played the past few seasons but did not have ridiculously high winrates. Less players could mean weaker playerbase at highest level but it also means that there’s less new players so the mid/lower ranks have become more competitive. You used to be able to end your first placements in plat/diamond afterall.

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There are bad players in every rank. I’ve seen diamonds that I was positive were sub gold only to be shocked looking at their profiles. I play in plat myself. It was hardly better than gold.

I added a guy I played with when I was in gold. He was a bronze 1 player but really good. He was mainly a tank player and knew how to engage. He was solid with macro play and callouts as well. I checked in on him this season just to see where he is and he’s mid silver.

I think about that guy a lot. He was solid enough that I enjoyed grouping with him despite him being the lowest ranked player in our games back then. He played fine against gold level competition and dare I say dominated in most of the games we played together.

His problem? Random teammates in HotS are a crapshoot. He’s barely climbed the ladder in almost a year even though he plays frequently. A great player held back entirely by poor teamwork rampant in most games. I mean he’s a tank player so he can’t exactly carry on his own.

I’m lucky I was able to solo to platinum. I started in gold 5 but I’ve improved a lot as a player since then. I doubt I could make the climb again solo. You need a duo to at least have one decent teammate you can coordinate and rely on.

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