Why I made a smurf

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I made a smurf to enjoy this game without getting tilted.

Let me explain.

My main, is around 2K Master points. As this game dies, the MMR variance increases across the board. Meaning, solo queuing or even as a duo punishes you with MMR compensation.

In QM, it would be a horrible overall experience. I would get players who never play ranked, silvers, bronze.

I don’t mind losing, if we lose in a good game sure. But losing because we don’t soak, rotate, disengage is expected. However, the irony, is that the more experienced players know what to do. I find myself double soaking a lot because of this. What bothers me, is there’s always a low level player who starts talking trash “wtf are you doing, you’re not with the team (whose araming), etc… the classic stuff.

Today I got a 830 lvl butcher die 13 times in 15 minutes to start talking trash about me for laning. Note, the rest of us 4 gave up a garden seed (1/3) to get bot for with a camp. He then says “fine I’ll just skip all objectives”.

The flaming takes off.

That’s a regular interaction with low delusional level players. Diamond is bad too. Solo que is a nightmare in ranked as well. We need a main tank, the guy last picks Tass. With DVA as our solo tank. This happens so often I made a smurf so I can play games without having to worry about rank points because of dumb drafts (note, I always try to win regardless).

That’s why I made a smurf. To play rank games without getting potatoes or trolls. I can QM in peace without being frustrated and wanting to uninstall this garbage game.

I’ve reached diamond 1 on my smurf very easily. So now, I can enjoy high competitive games without worrying about losing rank points because ransoms feel like they know everything.

Alas, I cannot escape the players who are trolls.

This morning, I last pick DVA. Immediately getting flamed. “DVA is F tier.” On dragon shire.

The funny part is that our main DPS Picks Ray into Johanna. Then complains about me, whose winning top and takes a Fort. Somehow it’s my fault that he’s dying???

Mid and bot lane match up:

ray, anduin, anoob, fal
VS
ZJ, Auriel, Jo and Kael

The fact that they blame this loss on me choosing DVA just brings me back to how low level players believe it’s the fault of heroes and not players.

This is the same Ray who doesn’t know when to retreat when anoob has no mana vs and a ZJ auriel?! To what?? Out poke and sustain them? What a joke.

Fast forward to them fighting before 20, I’m literally 2v1 thrall and kael about 1.5 screens away. They die to a 3 v 4.

We lost the game after this. He blames me for not peeling.

I thought I found a solution but I only prolonged my destiny.

Back in this house of mirrors and frustration.

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Doesnt matter to me at all, smurfing is for losers and shouldnt be tolerated. Please ban him.

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Couldn’t agree more. Writing a text wall justifying yourself and/or your toxity/lame excuse will never excuse it.

Smurf = get outside you blue faced troll

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There have been threads about why people make smurf accounts. There is only one good reason I saw that deserves a smurf account: Experimentation. This is done so they don’t experiment in high level play, thus potentially ruining games.

Your reason for making a smurf account as been stated is because you rage at your teammates choices and they to you. Being that you have encompassed the ENTIRE gamut of play, making a smurf account is moot. You just want to preserve your rank, while making a smurf (idc) account.

There have been many threads speaking about how smurfs ruin the game too, because they simply don’t give a damn about the games. You are bored, if you play to win even in your smurf account.

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You can’t make smurfs?

This makes me miss WC3 dota a bit. Back then it was a map with no way to see a mmr. Top players with any one. This format brings up skill so fast it’s crazy.

But now a player who has a higher skill plays low level and they want to ban out the learning experience pitiful. If I could only play with GM top 50 all day I would. Sure they would hate me but after 1-2 weeks I would be as good as them.

Being forced to play with people as bad as me stagnates your growth.

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I understand exactly why OP does this. It is not fun queuing as a 2K master and being a “balancing factor” in low MMR matches (using him + a bunch of 1500 rated people to create a 2,2k rated match)

However as you make a new account and go against low mmr players (even if they are veterans) you are just stomping people 5 leagues below you in skill.

I don’t think that constitutes as a challenge. The skill disparity between a mid master and a casual Silver 5 QM main is so large the match cannot possibly be fun for either player.

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Smurfing destroys any game, and any chance for new players to enjoy the game and stay in it.

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You guys misunderstand. I didn’t smurf to smash low levels. It’s not fun smashing low levels. I’m nearly in master again. To me, playing ranked on my smurf is a competitive quick match game. That’s all, but nice try trying to twist what I said!

I’ve enjoyed smurfing in D and vs Masters and GMS. I rather do that then subject myself to frustrating game after another.

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List the reasons/differences between playing on your main acc. in GM and playing on your smurf acc. in GM.

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Experimentation in someone else game sounds way wrose! You are screwing up on purpose to see if something works or not, I would hate to be on the team with the smurf doing something that’s going to lose us the game. Low rank lives matter too! :sparkling_heart:

Did I miss something because it looks like his teammates raged at him not him at them. I do wonder what really goes on for people to always be mad at him, we are only getting half the story.

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Just do unranked draft then. People usually get it more than QM and it isnt ranked.

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#1 impetus to take breaks between frustrating games for me:

  • 2 camps and 3 catas are arriving at bot keep
    • team wants to fight toplane anyway, 15 vs 17 and 4 vs 5
      • ping retreat on top fight, ping defend on bot keep
        • team full-on engages
          • team flames you for not being at fight.
            • offlaner has 3k soak. At level 15.
              • dps mutes you when you say “can you take camps while I soak this wave” because “just let me play my game dude” [wherein I do nothing having to do with macro and just run around to wherever Li Ming is on the map because I’M TRACER SO I SHOULD NEVER TOUCH A CAMP ONCE on a team with no camp clear]

Or someone says, “[offlaner] can you please group for ONE fight? You’ve been missing for literally every fight so far…” and we’re level 7 or 8. And it’s been 4v4 the whole time in the botlane, and you’ve been 1v1 or doublesoaking the entire time and even making rotations down to help occasionally. I guess I should step up my game and play even more perfectly, because our Valla thinks that vaulting into Diablo with all his CDs up trying to chase a kill she doesn’t have the damage to get, in order to achieve her 4th death, is the correct play to make, and it was my responsibility to rotate 2 lanes to help her get that kill and not feed. OK.

it happens so regularly

so if you’re making the right call and your team = idiots and it’s not a situation where you win by doing the stupid thing together (say, giving up a keep for a fight you’ll probably lose and then even if you win, you’ll have nothing to punish with anyway because all the waves are pushed in and your team doesnt have the sustain to tank towershots)

you just have to accept that you are better than they are and ignore the words they say

it doesn’t really get better with smurfing. If you’re smurfing it just gets better because the likelihood that you can let your team 4v5 all game while you actually win the game yourself is higher, but if you’re looking for sense, well, make friends and play with them only.

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Sure no problem. As I mentioned in my other posts - I made a smurf to enjoy the game without being penalized for trolls or MMR skewing.

The pros of playing my smurf is:

I get a competitive game (now that I’m in D/M again) without losing games for players who are trolls and who don’t care. Like that one example of a guy last picking a Tass when we needed a main tank.

Before, I would solo Q on my main for QM just for “fun”. It’s not fun being a healer soaking two lanes or trying to make calls then getting raged at. All because my MMR needs to balance the teams. I understand it. It’s probably blizzard’s only option to balance games and lower Q times.

However, it’s not fun. I get it, it’s QM - I still want to win. It’s fun having messed up comps and you get weird match ups, but it’s not fun losing and getting raged at for trying to do the right thing.

Now, I get to play on my smurf account without having to get frustrated that I’m losing rank points because some troll chooses Tass or Ray into Job and blames me somehow…

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Yes, yet you are an experienced player playing at a low rank. Even odd talent choices, you are most likely still better than all the players, and wouldn’t be such a detriment to the game.

Half the story is presented, with the attitude he does no wrong. I inferred by the way he speaks in the OP that he also rages at his teammates. Getting tilted is a big indicator. Complaining about everyone else’s choices just like his teammates do to him is also evident.

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So in essence:

You aren’t speaking the whole story because we all know you encounter the things you mentioned in ALL modes and ranks of play.

Everything else you mentioned did not explain the difference between playing GM in main or smurf account.

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How do you gauge if something is going to work or not when low rank players react so much differently from higher ranked players?
I “experiment” in A.I mode and see how well something is working just to have it flop once I try it against human players. Seem like the same would happen between low and high ranks and this is why talks about Keal is so polarizing but I could be wrong.

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Because either:
A) You have a misconception about your placement

B) You like ruining the games for other players. Especially newer players.

You don’t need a wall of text to explain this OP.

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I think you’re right. If I want to try something, I just try it. If it means my teammates are unwillingly getting roped along in my own experiment, then welcome to team games. They are free to try exploring things too. If we don’t try these things, they’re never gonna get tried, so who cares if 1/100 games has someone who’s giving a try to an actually earnest attempt at a theorycrafted strategy?

In a perfect world, everyone would have groups of friends to play with where they can all try whatever they want and everyone gets along, but in reality, this kind of thing happens all the time. And I don’t think it’s wrong to do,

provided you think it could actually work and you have the faith that the strategy you’re trying to play with will actually be tried out. Someone in a game once picked D.va to doublesoak the top 2 lanes of BHB, which makes sense, but one of the people in draft protested that we needed someone who wasn’t D.va. Everyone else was on board so we did it, and then the player who wasn’t down didn’t play along with the strategy, and played Zul’jin as a laning partner with D.va because “he needed to kill Johanna for his Headhunter stacks” even though if he pushed the bottom lane with our 3man and Sylvanas, Johanna would have rotated down to defend our push since she’s the tank. He doesn’t have enough neurons to juggle those thoughts at the same time though, so we played with 2 top for the first 13 levels, and what did the Zuljin player do at the end? Say, “I don’t know why we made such a big deal about D.va doublesoaking when it clearly got us no EXP advantage…” even though D.va was never able to actually doublesoak alone. So he blamed the draft and the strategy we didn’t even use for our loss because he was too dull to even realize he prevented us from actually executing it. :expressionless: not really even that related I guess. But kind of related.

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Hi,

No. I don’t mind losing as long as its competitive. You misunderstand once again. Rank is trivial. I want quality games. I don’t want to “find” quality games by having to get trolled for 2 games to find a decent game.

Solo Queing is suicide because of the MMR.

That example with the Tass - I don’t care if he would of picked Tass, but he’s win rate on Tass was 42%. He wasn’t even level 15. So you can understand the frustration of needing a main tank and getting a no show in draft to last pick Tass. Why should I be punished for the lack of care from others or trolls?

And I did explain the difference. When I rank smurf, its basically like QM for me. It doesn’t matter, we’ll get a draft, even if its meh, or it could be great. I’ll have fun win or lose. In the process, if I get a troll, I won’t need to get annoyed because, “hey, who cares, its not my main…”

Do you get it now?

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True, but remember, I think smurfs are pointless and detrimental to the game. It was the only reason I have seen to at least make it somewhat valid.

A.I. is predictable. Humans are not. HUGE difference there. Even low level players.