Dota 2, being the best successful example of the game genre mova - is waging a holy war with smurfs, not sparing, banning even the main accounts of those who make smurfs, well aware that smurfing greatly harms the game play and directly affects the interest of new players.
What are the hots doing? Nothing.
Personally, every time I see a 50lv accoutn that plays like a god - I send a complaint for cheating and I don’t care about anything else. I’ve done it probably 500 times already, and I’ll keep doing it because I think smurfing is wrong.
But still, is Hots so far behind that he’s gonna keep doing nothing?
Dota2 can do whatever they want, just like League of legends, or Honor of Kings.
But, if Blizzard starts banning people who smurf in HOTS, the game basically dies. A lot of people only really play the game by smurfing now. They might as well just close the servers if smurf = ban. It’s easier, fast and no one will suffer.
Even if they create a rule against smurfing, and let’s say the game doesn’t die from it, there’s still no one to review the reports, so it doesn’t matter. It also can’t be automated, because there’s people who are naturally gifted and play well, people who come from other mobas and can translate everything to the game really well and all that, so the automated system could be banning someone who is just good.
That’s why…
^ this doesn’t do anything. It won’t ban anyone and it might hurt your account.
Then I understand correctly, there is no point in playing this game for anyone else, except for the notional thousand old players?
As for my reports not doing anything - let that be on Blizzard’s conscience, I’m not going to bow down to a company with only a name left - I’ll send as many reports for smurfing as I can. I’ll spam their entire feed because I can, and they’re just like me - can’t do anything about it, lol.
Let them make the right decisions in their games, or at least let them just copy it from Dota 2 - it’ll work out a lot better than anything they’ve changed in the meantime, they don’t even have to think, they’re very bad at it.
The point of playing hots is still just playing hots, nothing else. Don’t expect too much out of it. If you want a competitive scene, then search for an amateur team and play an amateur league.
Cheating reports are not automated, so someone has to review it. The reason I say it doesn’t matter is because there’s no one to review them. So the reports literally do nothing.
Since you report a lot, even if there was someone reviewing them, they might mark your account and disable your reports from coming through because of spam.
It’s always better to report only if you are 100% sure someone is actually breaking the rules.
Sounds sad bro, it feels like this game hasn’t existed for a long time now.
Like I said - I absolutely don’t care, especially if no one is viewing them, lol.
Especially all other games have reports for smurfing, I don’t care that Hots doesn’t - so now I think smurfing is cheating here. I don’t care what blizzard thinks about it, I doubt anyone else cares at all, but smurfing is wrong and hurts the game, therefore it’s bad and a report should be filed.
At the end, when this game closes, the auditors will see 10000+ reports from players that nobody looked at, so they didn’t do their job and there will be a reason to punish them or fine them or whatever.
HotS is a property of Activision Blizzard Inc. That is a “Holding Company” whose primary interest is the management of stocks in a variety of businesses. Their ‘customers’ are investors and not ‘gamers’. The workplace is regulated by budgets and deadlines for appeasing stocks and returning on investments. When numbers aren’t up, then suits demand that the company cut costs so they can pretend they’ve still made money.
Valve is a private company that manages a digital market of video games made by others. While they have occasionally made games, the majority of the revenue for Value comes through Steam and other projects largely serve as advertisement for Steam. Valve has a ‘flat structure’ were staff can choose to work on what they want. Dota 2 is effectively financed by ransomeware “crowd funding” and doesn’t worry about investor demand to cut costs or build toward an unsustainable bubble of ever expanding revenue.
So long as Dota 2 has staff willing to put up with particular functions of the game, then they can ‘wage war’ against smurfs.
So long as their isn’t a vested appeal in stock value, then said ‘war’ would just be cost that investors don’t care about from Blizzard’s ‘live service’ model.
According to your logic, any project from activigen blizzard must be a failure, because these people are “not gamers” and are not interested in being gamers, but only in “profit”, therefore, they will not be able to make a good product for the gamer audience and activigen blizzard will sooner or later cease to exist.
All these are just primitive excuses, with the same success you can say that Jeffrey Bezos helps to earn money by his baldness.
Get it?
I can give absolutely any reason I want, but really - Blizzard just doesn’t fight smurfs, Dota does. That’s it. I don’t need to think about it anymore.
We can all see the result of fighting or NOT fighting this problem, you don’t need to have the super man vision.
One game is in active development, and the other had it’s budget removed, it’s staff cut, and has un- and officially announced the game isn’t in active devolpment.
Your inability to think is directly tied with your ability to use “logic”. Stop faulting others for your actions
I read yours. You don’t seem to have read mine, or put much thought into it.
Reading is an action, thinking is an action, drawing bad conclusions from incomplete information is an action.
This isn’t my first reply to you, and it isn’t the first time you decided to turn off your brain before you draw bad conclusions from incomplete information. Would you like me to repost a sample of my replies to you that demonstrate that you don’t think things through before you just look some anything else to blame?
Or have you suddenly realized the logical fallacies you’re trying to fault me for you having done them?
edit addition:
Cool, you found a +1 to pretend that they’re going to pat you on the head and give you a cookie.
I guess you decided that rolling two accounts to ‘like’ your posts is better than actually reading, and thinking through these discussions and complaints.
The issue with that is that the players are not cheating. Cheating would be map hacks, aim bots, e.t.c. Being at the incorrect skill level is not cheating, although smurfing is ToU violation of only 1 account per person.
There are many new players for games that are released a long time ago?
I am pretty sure the main reason Valve is combatting smurfing is purely for PR. People think smurfs are a bigger problem than they actually are. Truely skilled players do not smurf without a good reason, since stomping newbies is very boring both to them and to people watching them.
A lot of the early day HotS “smurfs” were pro players disproving the “stuck in bronze” lies people were spreading by showing just how fast they could make it to diamond/masters using either fresh accounts, or borrowed accounts that were bottom of bronze. This did spawn an unfortunate trend for streamers repeating this challenge, but the numbers were kept rather small as it was not likely good for view retention to repeat that often.
There are also a lot of ban avoidance smurfs. Some people have their main HotS account banned for reasons, so they are forced to create smurf accounts to keep playing HotS. Technically a ToU violation but hard to combat given HotS is free to play. Many of these players were banned for reasons such as inappropriate language, or feel like they were mobbed with false reports for throwing and the like.
Lastly you have the sad players who for some reason think beating over low skilled players prove anything. I guess it proves that they are not very good HotS players since they are scared to actually fight high skilled players lol.
Look, let me send you all your dialogs where you dodge the answer, taking it in another direction that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, bro?
What do my actions have to do with it and why do you care about them?
I asked you: how does the fact that activ-blizad is a different type of company affect the fight against smurfing? You start asking me about my actions.
You either think that no one can see your “actions” or you have problems with logical chains and can’t answer the question clearly. Or you just think others are stupider than you, which is obviously the opposite in your case.
How about I ask you about apples and you tell me about Biden? Oh, I’m sure you’ll tell me.
Once again, I’ll only engage with you if you learn to answer questions, not turn the tables.
Smurfing is a big problem everywhere. The fact that blizzard doesn’t recognize it is of little concern to anyone.
“I” do everything that “you” do, bro, you created this.
I think the simple answer is that there’s still a team that is working on it? This game is on life support.
Putting in resources something like this would require investment that we just haven’t seen in the last 2 years. I applaud Dota2 for doing this though. Smurfs really do ruin the spirit of fair matchmaking.
Minus the part where I do explain? Language barrier or not, you do a terrible job of reading past two words. You have a fixated attention and do not think past that.
The tl;dr was already there before you decided to not read things through.
You concluded that “my logic” means that blizzard can’t put out a “good product”. My “logic” is that one company is funding their game, and the other company is not. I could also point out what is a “good product” for investors is different than one for “gamers”. There’s a lot of “logic” you aren’t doing when you write out these complaints.
“Waging war” takes resources and if something isn’t financed, then it isn’t going to be getting changes that require time, money, and personal.
Valve has decided relatively recently to step up their actions against smurfing and they can do that do to having people willing to do that for Dota 2 because the companies are different.
You don’t seem to understand the difference between a company actively working on a game, and one that is not. That is an issue that can be resolved with ‘reading’ and ‘logic’ which are “actions” you don’t seem to keen on doing.
So you admit that smurfing is ruining the game, because the Dota 2 team is working on it, but the Hots just doesn’t have the money to do it?
That’s commendable, but it was already clear to everyone and everyone knew it and had the opportunity to observe it for about 7-8 years, since the mova genre became popular.
The fact that it took me so long to bring you out for you to say that is pretty weird considering you clearly think you’re smarter than others, which of course is probably the opposite. Whether that’s Survivor’s Error or you have some other problem is none of my business.
However, you see the problem: blizzard did nothing in hots with smurfing even when that game had its heyday, even before you were stopped being funded and the team was cut.
And your “old” opinions, as I understand it, are an echo of those times when even with enough money and hands - you did nothing.
You really still think smurfing isn’t that big of a problem for competitive play and therein lies your problem - you are literally outdated with that opinion.
Not only that, I’ve seen your logic broken on other issues as well.
From this I conclude that there is no point in listening to you, because you do not have all the information and contain bad ideas for the game, which led you to what we have now
They also have the following which is what confused me to make my previous claim.
You may establish an Account only if: (i) you are a “natural person” and an adult in your country and state of residence (Corporations, Limited Liability Companies, partnerships and other legal or business entities may not establish an Account); and (ii) you are not an individual specifically prohibited by Blizzard from using the Platform.
Given the term you pointed out, it seems this is in reference to the creation of each of the person’s multiple accounts, not an only account per person.
The only thing they said was that “it’s not as big a problem as many people think”, something like that.
Moreover, what’s really scary is that a normal person forms some associative connections due to past experience - they still think so. It turns out that they do not hear it “point-blank”, because they can’t see it, but this option remains.
Ah yes, also someone from the developers said that if you can not play with your friends “on the same rank”, you can simply create a new account. Which is exactly smurfing.
To imagine that in Dota 2 someone said such a thing, or in the same LOL, something from the category of fvantastic.
In general, my opinion - they just needed online for reporting, which was apparently trying to tell us Xenterex. Players themselves and the game and what it will eventually lead to - they cared little apparently.