Why do you hate Valeera

See a lot of people who hate on Valeera in some way or another, and as a Valeera main, I find it interesting. Everyone says she broken, and I feel like shes kinda trash. To be fair, I get MVP a lot with her, a lot of kills, but thats just because Im super comfortable with the hero and playstyle, so anyone can do that with any hero in my opinion.

I wonder if Im just not seeing something.

is it just the silence, or the burst damage, or perhaps stealth? Shes super easy to bog down.

She is a 1v1 champ, thats for sure

She only becomes annoying to face if you are playing QM with 0 healers/tanks to protect you. Even more if she is in a party with Aba.

With a proper team comp she becomes irellevant.

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Yeah this is my reasoning as well. She can become extremely irrelevant real quick, especially against a team with a lot of AOE or spread damage

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I only really hate her in QM when you don’t have tools to deal with her. In games, where allies will help you, she’s actually kind of weak.

If anything, I hate Valeeras on my team that just sit in bushes and don’t do anything. The ones that just sit on the sides while the team is full on engaging, either waiting for an enemy to finally wander in from a side that will probably not be flanked, or finally going in to try to steal kills. It’s like they’re playing a single player stealth game.

It’s exhausting having to play 4v5 constantly. The good aggressive Valeeras that aren’t afraid to go in and take a few hits I love.

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She’s just a very frustrating character to play against and it doesn’t have to do with any sort of expertise you have in the game, you can be so good you will still find her insufferable to fight.

Obviously opinionated but I haven’t seen anyone with a clear face tell me that it’s fun to face a Valeera, in the end she’s weak and fills the anti-dive position or becoming the cream and butter of a lockdown comp.

All of this boils to her being a silencer all-in bot.

I don’t really lose to her but I’m certainly not enjoying my time against her regardless of whatever I play.

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Silence and stun. Im not complaining about Zera and Nova, and most people aren’t as much either. Stun is just a terrible mechanic that should of never been used in any video game. Silence is closer to the cancer that is stun, but far less annoying.

What couldn’t a simple root instead of stun on Cheap Shot accomplish ? What couldn’t a damage debuff instead of a silence on Garrote solve ?

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her kit bodied-out other potential characters for HotS, the abilties aren’t lore-suited for her (generic instead of specific) and she’s another blonde ponytail.

Most Valeeras don’t even use cheap shot as an opener though. I’d also much rather face a Valeera over a Zeratul. A good Zeratul is just stupid slippery that unless you have really quick reliable CC, it’s just stupid to deal with, and also isn’t nearly as dependent on stealth for openers.

And to label stuns as a whole for a bad mechanic in any video game is so strange. If there’s a problem with CCs, discussions should be more about their duration and strength rather than just outright elimination.

To me it’s silence duration mainly (i have the same problem with alarak) and that 1 sec Unrevealable on vanish (compare to other stealth heroes)
I don’t mind the high dmg, if she can be catch instantly on vanish. Maybe the lvl 4 energy cost reduction on Sinister Strike need to go and lvl 7 that give 125% more dmg at the cost of 1 range could also up the cost by 5

Many “buttons that give stealth when you press them” have Unrevealable attached to them.
Sam, Nova, and Medivh, Brightwing, also do this.

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Valeera’s design is good in principle: you open on someone with a strong opener that makes them useless for a while (silence mages and blind physical dds) and then Valeera gets the same exact mechanic as medivh or orphea: she lands skillshots until the enemy dodges it. If Valeera’s victim dodges her Q, it enters a cooldown and Valeera is now on such a great disadvantage that she has to run, just like medivh and orphea.

The problem is that her “skillshot” lands around 90% of the time and she also deals high damage with her auto attacks. Imagine if Medivh or Orphea were like that.

Valeera is frustating to play against because the way she was supposed to work was never realized. She is punished too lightly for missing her skillshot when she misses it and she almost never misses it.

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All her openers are like that to. If your knocked out of stealth during your approach your game plan is just as over : c

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Playing Murky I enjoy seeing her, also as Gaz too
she’s like Novas tree hugger sister, just kinda there and makes occasional appearances

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For Valeera it’s 1s baseline with vanish on 8s cd
But for Medivh it’s a 20 talent choice, rarely picked, and only 0.5s
Brightwing is picked more often but again lvl 20 talent and only 0.5s
Nova has only 0.5s on a 1min cd (45s with talent)
Ok for Sam but windwalk has 15s cd

Many buttons ok, but clearly a huge advantage for val :wink:

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