That happens at every level of the game.
Too many players get their bad habits ingrained and are almost beyond salvation after playing so many games doing that same thing. They don’t even see what they’re doing wrong when they blindly march to the objective and into the enemy team while the rest of their team is still dealing with rotations.
I wouldn’t know the statistics behind Bronze Hell but I’ve seen that level of play before and I’ve equally seen a number of players who can singlehandedly win those games.
The most common tactic is either high skill high dps potential heroes where you can actively outplay the enemy team or you simply macro to victory. Pick Zag or Azmo and just afk lane until you reach core. It works a lot more often than it should.
Cheesy tactics like that don’t even just apply to bronze, they can work all the way through plat and even occasionally diamond+.
I don’t want to flat out say the common phrases like “You are the only constant” and “You are where you belong” but there’s usually a grain of truth in those.
Flexibility and adaptability are key traits to have in a game where the meta is constantly shifting and there’s such a large roster of heroes and different maps. It’s a team game but that doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of picks you can take that make you largely independent of what your team does.
If you don’t think you deserve your rank but after 50+ games you haven’t been able to climb then instead of yelling about the matchmaker you need to reevaluate your approach to the game.
Tinfoil, it’s not just for baking any more!
your answer to why bronze hell exists is too complex. its actually very simple.
Blizzard does match making based on your win loss rating. so if you win too many games in a row, you will get teamd up with progressivly worse and worse teammates while simultaneously puting you against teams with higher and higher win rating.s
I was Gold 1 in the last season that I played and I can escape “Bronze hell.”
I know this because I used to be Bronze 5.
It’s a non-answer like people in wow say that the faction balance is a “community problem” while the developers are the reason it exists in the first place.
I have been playing with people who are silver and play like high plat/diamond and the other way around. People always measure skill based upon a rating which only accounts wins and loses but in reality a veteran player can easily tell how good you’re are on the game, similar like people who play DotA2 for years and just know every spec, synergy and the possible outcome based upon it.
I heard this before, but when I looked at those ppl, the Silvers actually play as Silvers and the Diamonds like Diamonds, but ppl who are lower in skill can credit too much/little for different things, because they don’t see can’t really see the differences, since if they’d do, they probably would be more skilled.
Basically laics thinking they see the same things as experts.
I see that will escape Bronze to Gold or Platinum will be getting Ranked mode in Korean version.
They did.
That they did not.
Bronze hell is not the game trying to make you lose though. You get to bronze hell when your level is actually lower than bronze 5. Since the game cannot place you any lower than that when you keep losing, it adjusts the amount of points you get when you win or lose. If you won the same amount of points as other players, a few lucky wins would get you to bronze 4, even though you’re not bronze 4. So you get less points.
The problem is if people actually learn and improve. getting out of there is extremely difficult due to the low amount of points gained. But this is an extreme for players who originally were doing very bad.
This is a very case by case type of thing.
In my experience it’s actually pretty common for someone to have the mechanical skill or game knowledge typical of a “better” player but often lack in other departments or trip over themselves and make bad calls during critical endgame moments.
Knowing a hero’s ins and outs doesn’t really take too much memorization or practice, so someone can be very good at landing skillshots but still need a lot of work when it comes to shotcalling and awareness. And there’s the vice versa of whiffing all your abilities but knowing what you should be doing.
I’ve also noticed it’s not too hard to impress lower skill players. I’ve had people applaud me before for doing some very basic things like properly bodyblocking as ETC.
Fanhots or other good players proved many times that this point is wrong. Heck even myself is a proof that it’s wrong, I played myself out of B5 and currently I am between S2 - G5, because sometimes indeed you get players you can’t work together with them, because even in gold people lacks in understanding about good drafting. But I am not surprised, because this game don’t teach you how to draft right.
That’s why smurfing is so rampant here and they admitted the problem by locking every “new” player to the lower levels who have to work their way up.
It always has been. The PBMM was originally thought to fight (edit) the issue.
What makes the true difference is not to die when things go bad. Even if you lose, dying is the most critical failure you can encounter.
Well, you have to “tank” Blizzard for this. Instead matching people of the same level together they average out the mmr for the 50:50.
This is a good thing honestly.
Here’s my deal, Bronze 5 205 points 795 points to get to bronze 4. Average pts per game are 15 per game win or lose. To get to bronze 4 I would need to play 53 games over .500 (that means +53 wins in a season). There is no way I’m going +53 wins in a season I just don’t play that many games.
I’m right back to 205 points with 700+ points to play. It never gets adjusted up.
So I gain a little, then boom right back to the start. 
I’ve just come to accept this is where I’m at.
Bull.
Returning players are shoved down there. New players are shoved down there.
When I was new, I started in Rank 8 (than Gold after the switch). Obviously I only joined ranked when I was no longer a big noob.
There is no Rank Decay below Diamond, so not sure what you’re referring to, but if a low ranked ppl jumps into SL after a hiatus, it’s on them tbh.
Make a new account. Solves all the problems if you’re stuck that low
Yeah…
I was gold when I left.
I’ve been gone for 2 years.
THEY PUT ME IN BRONZE - so literally what you posed is a lie. I don’t know where you got that lie, you firmly believe it’s true, but it’s a damned lie. There is a reason why HotS is the least played MOBA out there right now.
Also, you severely missed the point of my post. When I say Bronze Hell I am talking about PLAYERS who intentionally screw other players. I’m talking about ATTITUDE. I’m talking about people who THROW GAMES.
Care to sit in on my stream? I have plenty of hours of video highlight all of that crap, while I am breaking my neck to pull everything out that I can to win.
The reality is if you have 1 bad apple on a team, you are screwed, unless the other team has bad apples as well.
There are no english servers.
Its the americas .
No one is forced to communicate in a different language the same way that you arent obliged to do so either.
If they dont understand english , use pings. That should be sufficient to communicate basic elements that everyone should understand.
You can say that, but I won’t believe it.
But if you’ll show proof, I’ll acknowledge this as truth and learn something.
But I saw and heard ppl who took break and didn’t fall in MMR/rank.
Now that is a lie.
There are more than 3 MOBAs and HotS is the third most popular.
I doubt that Smite took over its place but even then, there are more than 4.
I did not.
I just ignored your rant and talked about the actual real issue, because:
Those ppl -tho problematic- are not Bronze nor B5 only, and since you can have 5 on the enemy’s side but only 4 on yours (since you’re not one of them), they can’t drag you down on the longrun.
That’s what climbing is and why it works.
You are in all of your matches, so as long as you play better than the ones you complain about, you will have a higher winchance than lose, thus you gain more points than lose.
Maybe one day.
If “bad apples” are common at your rank, it’s highly likely that the enemy also has them.
And if you’re better than anyone on that lvl, you should be able to get more value to your team than the enemy.