For me after level 20 Nazeebo is the most powerful, with frog build at least and with big voodoo, as long as you have been keeping up on stacks. and the best part is the longer the game goes the more powerful he gets, had a game the other day where I was able to get 500 stacks on warhead junction (typical QM game, lots of squishies and no healers, both sides scared to advance, constant picks on both sides) and I had over 10k HP
so I am wondering do any of you think there is another hero more OP then naz after 20?
Murky is up there for sure. Junkrat is also a late game monster. I think hanzo with the right talents too
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Nazeabo pending you were able to achieve VIle Infection. I mean isn’t it obvious it’s a level 20 talent so OP It needed to be locked behind a semi hard to really had quest
Heroes that scale >4% per level are high up there. Chogall would probably be the most prominent example, as most of gall’s abilities are 5%/level.
It gets more noticeable deeper into 20’s though, since most such heroes are balanced around lvl16-20, so they’re not too strong at 20, but rather weak early. Still, at lvl25+ things can get really out of hand.
Naz scales really good, Valla is a late game monster, Varian seems virtually unkillable at lvl 20 to me.
Most heroes are really powerful at level 20 depending on the situation, but I’ll definitely say Leoric with burried alive, Butcher with lamb upgrade, Tassadar with infinite Archon, Dehaka with AoE Isolation, Alarak with rewind (double silence combo + 4 Es), Alex with double dragon, Jaina with Wintermute, Diablo/Garrosh with anything, Anubarak/Muradin cause Rewind is OP, Zeratul cause shadow mending, Junkrat cannon ball op.
Mephisto is a late game monster too. With completed skullquest he becomes a machinegun (which also allows him to become a selfsustain and juke master thanks to the sinergy in between his talents), not mentionning his ultimate becoming at lvl 20 a finisher that resets on kills.
If you delve into lvl20 talents, then I’d say it would be more fruitful to list heroes that have weak(-ish) lvl20’s compared to others, since most heroes do have insane powerspikes at 20 (that’s the main reason why fighting 19x20 is a suicide only worth doing if there is really really no other choice (and it’s still better to try to at least use core damage as buffer)).
Some of the examples would be heroes for which Bolt is the best choice at 20 (e.g., Kerrigan). But even Kerrigan feels like a monster at 20, even if you compare it to herself at 16 (well I guess Kerrigan just has a much stronger base than others - one of the reasons why playing her feels so smooth and getting to 20 not as mandatory).
gazlowe especialy if the game is clown fiesta
Spectral Leech Leoric is a 20 beast, Kel’Thuzad is a monster in a skilled player’s hands, Butcher obviously, Zeratul is a beast, and of course Chromie.
Isn’t it Cho’gall?
Hour of Twilight gives me some serious Resurgence of the Storm PTSD.
Artanis if you have a main tank with you and once you complete seasoned marksman with follow through, Triple Strike, blades of a templar and zealot charge is pretty freaking bonkers.
Zeratul is pretty strong with Shadow Mending + Wormhole. If he plays right then he’ll very easily kill off your backline.
Murky is a pain in the neck at lvl 20.
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heck, even without a tank artanis can be pretty ridonk. recently had a QM no-tank game where we were in a 3v3 near the enemy core (couple deaths on each side), i had about 20 hp, and by deciding “screw it i’m taking them with me” i somehow managed to pump out just enough shields to avoid death
it was completely terrifying but a lot of fun lmao
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If they are melee heavy, go Seasoned Marksman, Shield Surge, Chrono Surge, whatever, Graviton Vortex, Blades of a Templar, and either Beam upgrade or Zealot Charge. Point blank swaps on CD turns him into even more of a blender, and the Zealot Charge means that if you have to swap at a slightly longer range, you are instantly back on top of them.
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Yeah i’ve had the same experience. One time we had a late game team fight we killed two guys but they got everyone but me. I had like 20% health and took the other 3 down who were all above 50% when the 3v1 started.
He’s really good.
Murky is super strong leoric with buried alive is super scary too. Infinite archon tassadar is no joke either.
People underestimate his tankiness, depending on the talents. By 16 you can reduce the cooldown of shields so much that they just keep popping up.
Greymane is a solid contender along with Twilight Archon Tassadar