I dont expect any favorable changes in the coming months. I am now a Medivh main.
All our posts for nothing, all our feedback for nothing, i dont even know if they read it and ignored it all or literally didnt care enough to read any of it.
And what we did get was just badly designed, points at fanatical weakness.
Feels like we have to get to Greta Thunberg levels of protest to achieve anything really.
I prefer to remember Whitemane as she used to be, not the abomination she has become.
People asked Viking changes for 4 years and nothing came of it.
After reworking a hero you will be lucky if they ever look at that hero again. Especially if itâs not a super popular cash cow with tons of skins that draws in gem purchases.
What is wrong with Whitemane? She is still OP. I think she is the best burst/clutch healer. Though she is bit hard to play. You must be crying because you cannot play her effectively.
People still complain not much for her performance but because she has a different gamestyle after her reworks, not so drastically changed like Malfurion but still.
This kind of issue is probably without solution: Devs will not going back just because some people donât like the new Whitemane, even if those are the most dedicated fans.
She may not be what she was before but she is at least incredibly good and one of the best healers out there.
I literally am the rank 1 Whitemane from last season.
I am not saying she is not strong, she is more than before without a doubt, since her winrate finally got out of 43%, but she is not a fun hero anymore.
Please do not use HeroesProfile to rank what Whitemane you are, if youâre not going to give proofs then none will believe you.
Firstly, Whitemane yeah, sheâs ignored in terms of feedback. Right now, sheâs only powerful for one thing, which is âWâ Build, ironic isnât ? The build taken in pre-rework still the same build thatâs taken post rework.
The only thing thatâs making Whitemane âgoodâ is the overbuff to Pity the Frail, the cooldown reduction makes it so Subjugation at level 13 would be online at all times, not to mention Shared Punishment shredding armor increasing her healing and slight damage increase.
So yeah, mostly itâs just W talents, itâs too powerful at the moment and thatâs what makes her âsomewhat viable.â, but going any other build, not really.
I literally linked the leaderboard, i dont think there is a better way to prove it, i was gonna make a video to show my plays but i just dont find the motivation to play her anymore and instead made a Medivh video.
You can find it on youtube if you want, Doomguy Medivh, the audio is terrible tho and i will redo it later.
You guys honestly sound like youâre programmed to ignore current Whitemaneâs crippling problems in the form of talent disfiguration (that came from the rework) and the unique playstyle that was demolished in her rework. I adored her innate aggressive playstyle. Yes her talent diversity may have been improved, but the charm for Whitemane is nearly extinct.
Oh look, a brain. A rare sighting, a pleasure.
There wasnât that much diversity anymore, considering that W build is still the go to, and level 13 is locked as Subjugation, which now replaces Harsh Discipline.
She got a rework because she had to. I think devs who rely on their own accurate data knows better than you fools who simply look at hotslogs and complain about wr %.
Under 50% winrate - You killed my favorite hero, reverse the changes!!!
Above 50% winrate - They are too OP. Tired of this hero, nerf ASAP!!!
50% winrate - I hate this matchmaking bs. Fâing forced 50% winrate!!!
That being said you were gonna complain any way.
Exactly. She may not be what she was but she at least is really good. Lots of heroes get reworked and are not even good 
We didnât say she didnât have problems or anything. All we said is she may not be what she was before but she is at least pretty strong and you can do a lot with her.
I guess reading is hard for some people?
I think whitememes got to that point eons ago.
I stopped giving a damn about supports the moment this guy arrived.
On the contrary, i liked her more when she had 43% winrate before the rework.
Now she has 53% and i dont like her.
Why do you not like him? i find him pretty fun.
My bad i still have the old support = healer tag.
Medivh is my most leveled hero, most played must still be zeratul i believe.
Iâve put maybe 400 games on her rework now and I have to say that I disagree with this. Many of her talents are quite viable and Pity the Frail is hardly a level 1 requirement. Saintly Greatstaff is the only bad 13 as it is unreliable as hell and not cohesive with her playstyle. Having to AA the same hero twice for itâs value is just stupid imo.
Aside from that, you take different talents for different things, as youâre supposed to versus going cookie-cutter builds you find on sites. You do have to work harder with Whitemane than other healers for the same numbers, but her skill ceiling is so damn high she can almost make teams immortal at the right times.
I learned how to play Whitemane from a Diamond friend, I think heâd disagree with you as well. Q W and E all have viability, and itâs more about combining what will be most effective in your comp vs the enemy comp. Use trait for Searing Lash heals when needed is insanely burst, especially with the 13 reset. You only need the damage reduction at 13 if your comp is struggling with a dive hero.
At 16, the Armor and chain is generally viable all the time, with the root talent feeling just a little unreliable. If I take the stacking talent at 1 and do well, Q build is pretty amazing with Radiance at 16. You can proc a full party heal twice in a row with a quick Clemency between Qs at 3 stacks of desperation.
Some kinks to work out though, like why does her cleanse give you a stack of desperation? Saintly Greatstaff needs to be more reliable or have a better justifiable bonus and maybe her root at 16 as well. Scarlet Wrath at 7 probably needs a slightly bigger bonus per AA or also increase Whitemaneâs AA speed. Doing that could be enough for Greatly Saintstaff at 13 and create a viable synergy there.
Iâve become very diverse with Whitemane thanks to my friend and reading a lot about her from others. My ranked winrate is almost 60% with her across 150ish games. I can still get better as Iâm only half as good as my Diamond friend (Iâm low platinum atm).
TL;DR - she has a lot of diversity though there are still kinks to work out. Fixing Saintly Greatstaff is the last biggest thing Iâd like to see, with or without adjustments to her 7, Scarlet Wrath. Most of her other talents have a place and W isnât the only viable build.
Yes there is, screenshot your whitemane stats in game.
How many times do people need to mention this, unless you are hiding something hence why after 20 times of you spamming you are on the leaderboard on some 3rd party website with inaccurate bounces while not even providing an even BETTER proof, then you are outlined as a lier for the hero you play as âgoodâ.
You make youtube videos of montages, I think you have enough knowledge to screenshot an image of your entire screen.
Yup, showing ingame stats like winrate, kda and rank would give a ton better picture than being ânumber oneâ on a leaderboard which works with only a part of the matches (uploads) and lacks noticable names from it, like ex-pros and GMs.
After all, having 55% wr in GM is more meaningful than 70% in Silver.
Iâll admit, Iâm not a whitemane player and since I find her playstyle to be especially hectic, I probably never will. But looking at talent popularity and including the previous patch, every talent tier except 20 has a talent with a popularity over 50%. I think that would be the basis for additional changes.