So while I was playing I had a situation where my area lost power during a match. Then later in the day I needed to take care of sudden real world necesities. Both situations put me in the leavers queue to give me time to think about what I had done and how I am a naughty child (yes it is a punishment).
But what is this mess I have to win a game. I sit in leavers queue waiting for a match, I finally get one in QM and we lose, yes i stayed and played through that bs of a match making game. The next QM cant even find a match in a decent amount of time, so on to ARAM takes a while to get a match and I play it through even though two others left half way in again a loss.
So here I am still waiting for a match that says it should only be 26 seconds and I have time to write this wall of text. If I am playing matches all the way through why does it require me to win one and why cant it find me a match within a decent amount of time. This has evidently been brought it multiple times why hasnt it been listened to or addressed, is it due to all the fan boys championing the system and the devs saying its working as intended. Is its intentions to make players not want to play. I understand the need for a leavers queue and I have no problem with that aspect but it should not be punishing to this point. I waited so long that it put me in a game with one other person and AIs this time I won but this other poor soul has to wait another game and wait for someone else in leaver group to show up for a game…
If it helps do the devs require me to apologize and repent of my wicked ways…this is how overly punishing the system feels, and that could drive more players away.
Solutions: Win one match or play through 2-3 matches. If someone in your team leaves then you get to get out of jail due to the unfair conditions.
It’s to prevent people from throwing matches while staying connected the whole game.
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No, “play 1-4 matches” penalties were in the game before and griefers used this to their full advantage to afk through the games, as they had no interest to play through them.
Requiring wins is the only way to force people to actually play the game instead of afking the penalties.
Seems like you would do the exact same thing, which is why it’s good it was changed.
(Btw I have 4 penalties on EU now due to connection issues yesterday - just going to grind them out 
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Leaver que works as intended. You even get a free pass to leave a game without punishment so you saying you got leaver que twice just means you leave more games then you tell. And I know that from experience.
So you call everyone who defend this system for fanboys while saying you have no problem with said system at the same time.
If you are active and dont dc in all your games then you won get leaver. But when you say you have already been put in leaver twice now then I think you are not telling the true story here. Those two accidents of your dont put you on leaver que unless you have left many times before those two happen aka you are not telling the true here.
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You don’t get into leavers queue after skipping just one match. From what I can tell it gives you at least 2-3 penalty free matches before you get put into leavers queue. Personally I’ve only once had leavers Queue and I’ve been here since launch. It also decays, so if you go a couple of months without leaving, again it will allow you to leave matches without facing any punishment, it’s a very forgiving system.
It is also very easy to clear a leavers punishment in ARAM, the queue there for me on the US is instant and most ARAM games are shorter than the average QM.
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It seems some of you did not read the whole thing no i didnt dc out of one match i dc’d out of 2 matches in the same night. so the system is there to frustrate people who have to leave matches due to situations out of their control. only time i had been in leavers match since coming back to the game was tonight for all those thinking so no I wouldnt leave afk matches but there are plenty who do and it just keep punishing the rest. it wouldnt be as bad if waiting for a match didnt take so long. so im going to stand by my opinion that the system needs to be re evaluated
It seems like they did read the whole thing, but they just think you’re lying.
If you’re not lying, and have only ever disconnected 2 times, then I guess you’re the unlucky one the system treats differently.
Entirely possible, by the way. Just unlikely.
Leaver’s queue after only 2 disconnects would be a bug report: Bug Report - Heroes of the Storm Forums
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Yep first leave/DC in months doesn’t even give a penalty. The system is actually pretty forgiving for random dc’s.
It also decays as stated above, play long enough without a DC and you are back at 0 penalty games for your next DC.
Having several penalty games means a lot of DC’s in a short time period.
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The obvious problems with the implicit “win” quest:
- Quite clearly you need 2 matches per penalty level, on average
- It’s unreliable, see 3 wins (and 35 wins) discussions - You can win the first, or you can fail for a week
- Actually actually, you don’t need to participate, can just keep fiddle around, with so many leaver fooling as well, some random tryhard will do it for you, or not, well
Maybe the PBMMR machine could be put to good use here. Namely, if you perform adequately, then you get a pass even when lost.
(It’s there. Congratulations, you only died 2 times, less than your average of 2.3 during the last 30 days. My, I last played this hero 2 years ago!)
As far as my experience goes (“usually” dodging, but had one outage), the first penalty is 0 matches, but the 2nd disconnect makes it one. So yes, the sudden necessity was the issue.
I will bring this up from the dead, this is a trash way to handle this. I had a similar situation, I got a restart from bill gates during a match, got leavers, never given a chance to come back, I have now lost 3 games in QM to trash players. This is an A** mechanic.
HOTS may be dead, but ffs, they kept d2 alive for years, do the same with HOTS. This is a garbage mechanic.
Maybe don’t delay updates till they just start themselves on their own.
Wins required to force leavers to try and be useful.
There is no system that can differentiate intentional and unintentional afks/dcs. So it punishes all, to remain fair. Accident or not, it effected the game of 9 others.
But! The system is forgiving, meaning you can dc/afk here and there, if it’s not frequent you won’t even get into Leaver Queue at all.
Also Leaver Queue is “leavers” on both sides, so you can’t really blame afks, as they are on the enemy as well.
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