What does basic ability mean

i was playing illidan one game and i took the burning talent at level one and the abilities heal talent at level seven

the burning talent wasn’t causing heals to happen

another game i was playing as murky and i took the abilities heal at level thirteen and the pufferfish make enemy heroes take damage over time at level sixteen

the pufferfish damage over time was healing me

both of these things say basic abilities, so what are they? i am very confused

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Q W E are basic abilities
and every upgrade but ult like the hunt or octograb are not basic abilitys

I’m a bit confused. Do you mean the Burning Rage aura from the lv1 talent isn’t healing Illidan when he takes Hunters Onslaught on lv7?

I believe auras can’t trigger % based self heals nor do they count as basic abilities.

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then why does fish tank + wrath of cod heal?

Wrath of Cod does extra 15% of the targets max HP and grants extra healing from Fish Tank. The burn from Immolation is an aura effect rather than a basic ability.

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Because Immolation is not a basic ability. Its additional effect caused by/procs after using basic ability. You might want to consider it Burning Aura talent.
If it said “(spell) damage done by Illidan” or Immolation straight up increased W damage, sure.
That said, I agree it could be great combo and tbh I dunno why they didnt change it to buff HO.

Didnt even think about it :smiley:
But yeah, its damage dealt by Puffer, which is basic ability.

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The rest explained it already!
Wrath of cod is a talent that upgrades your basic ability

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burning rage is a perpetual effect (or aura) that lasts as long as you are near enemies, it not a basic ability in itself

like pufferfish (which wrath of cod just upgrades)

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what about malganis spreading plague? it heals him, and also causes healing when you have ana’s spells heal on you

because malganis trait specifically states

Mal’Ganis heals for 45% of damage dealt to enemy Heroes and 10% of damage dealt to non-Heroes.

if malganis deals any sort of damage at all he will heal

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but why does he get healing from ana giving him spell leech too

what about stitches gas flare, it heals him too if ana gives him spell leech. isnt it one of these burning rage talent people are talking about?

I might be wrong, but I think Illidan will gain healing from nano boost upgrade too while using Q or W. Just not from the secondary effect of Immolation.

I fail to see connection.

Immolation is separate effect, procced by basic ability.
Malganis heals for % of damage dealt, Ana increases healing. Anas nade will work on HO too btw. Anas grenade bonus is applied at the very end of all the healing received formula.

I personally like to pick HO with Marked for Death once in a while. This works, because bonus damage comes from basic ability.

Neither nade or Nano gives Gas Flare healing, lvl 20 Nano Infusion does.

Nano Infusions only condition is Spell Damage, not basic ability.

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but people are saying that auras don’t get any heals, so why does nano infusion give them heals?

so if i put nano infusion on a leoric with burning despair, he would get big heals from the aoe burning, and heals from his hand on whatever it is on?

I dont agree “aura” got anything to do with it. Nano Infusion will heal Arthas thanks to his aura. Illidans HO would heal Arthas.
But Burning Rage (forgot the name before) is separate ability/effect. Arthas aura is basic ability.

*Frozen Tempest, getting too old for this lol

so you are saying if i am playing ana, and i pick nano infusion at 20, it will cause any spell damage that is dealt to heal? even if it is from an aura?

Yes, every spell damage dealt by hero affected by Nano Infusion should heal him. It doesnt matter if its talent or not.

While we are at it, Im not 100% sure if Murky wont get healing from WoC extra damage. I think he shouldnt, since its % damage and it wont be affected by Nano as well. But who knows.

Percentage damage is spell damage for calculation, but isn’t affected by any damage modifiers (armor or spell power).

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Sorry but that doesnt make sense. If its not affected by spell power value, then its not a spell. For what spell calculation is it used?
CoD or Cursed Bullet give heroes healing when affected by Nano Infusion?