Unpopular opinion: Surrender option or fix QM

Whether it’s Stacks, smurfs, unbalanced comps yet alone having an AI QM needs a surrender option.

Constructive comments only please.

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Games last in averange 16-22 min. We dont need one.
This is not like LOL or Smite were comebacks are close to impossible for the losing team.

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While I understand in Ranked play where you are coming from. In QM its way less balanced and instead of spending 30 sec to put u in a terrible match up to then basically have to sit there in a 16-22min of an “unwinnable” match. Give us the option to leave after 10 minutes if they are basically just toying with us.

My suggestion would be to have it available with AI only on your team and see how it goes from there.

I don’t want to surrender, but I want to abandon the match if 2 or more players (on either team) left the game and never came back.

The players who didn’t leave, lose 40% less points (1 player is 20% of the match). The leavers lose 40% more, maintaining the MMR equilibrium. The other team gets full rank points (or if it’s qm/unranked, MMR).

So, nothing more and nothing less than the “loss forgiveness” they have promised for years.

Also, to borrow something from Dota: if the server is experiencing lag issues and detects all players ping suddenly jumps very high: Nullify all rank point gain and loss from that match and allow anyone to exit.

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This will RUIN them even more.

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<3 I would absolutely love this! NOthing worse than having a leaver and still losing full points in ranked. I actually had a couple of suggestions for improving QM but I said them in another forum ages ago to not great repsonces.

I would also like that but I having played this game for so long would probably be every match :stuck_out_tongue:

Edit because I cant double post:

Very constructive there :stuck_out_tongue: I don’t personally think it will as they have had it for other games and hasn’t ruined them.
I would also only have it in QM where it’s just about having a fun quick match per-se. I know we already have shorter matches but would prefer to still be able to get out of them if there is no chance.
While sometimes there is definitely a chance to have a comeback I think it’s way more likely in UR and Rank (Unless the losing team is in a 5 man group in QM).

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I won countless times with AI allies. Sometimes even with 2 AIs on my team.
Ppl really like to shout “unwinnable” and just give up. But actually, the average player don’t have enough knowledge to guess for their chance accurately, so they give up even when there’s no need to.

HotS games are:

  • Short
  • Have lots of comeback opportunities

And playing with an AI can be fun (and actually if it’s frustrating, the same is true to real players).
I want to fight, defeat the (not so bad) odds. And I dislike anything that helps ppl be lazy, careless. I hate everything that gives power to the defeatist.

(Also Blizz said no even after years of ppl more loudly asking for this, so won’t happen.)

If ppl want to have a better experience and more fun in games where ppl got replaced by AIs, ask for a better AI or for better ways to control them.

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They already deconfirmed the surrender option. Plus, matches are really fast paced (Between 20-30 mins). Also it would be immediately abused by many players.
In LoL, it makes sense to have surrender option. Cause matches are long there (Taking at least 30 mins).
So no.

I won countless times with AI allies. Sometimes even with 2 AIs

i agree with 1 ai, there is still some chance to win the game, yes even in storm league

but 2+ and the chances of winning vs any good enemy drops to almost absolute 0

if there was a stat chart for storm league how many games a team with two or three ai’s since the start, won against a full team it would have to be like 0.0001%

especially now when the ai is just a mindless drone who follows the player or if not pinged it stays in base

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While I am 99% sure it wont happen (has already been confirmed) if I asked for that and then they fix some issues instead I’d consider that a win.

Personally I have only won a handfull of times with an AI. Since we have the new AI I once saw an Alarak charge up deadly charge for ~10 minutes

More my issues are when you are 5 solo players against a 3 stack & 2 stack with former HGC/GM’s smurfing on the other team.
I’d like to be able to opt out instead of trying form some sort of coordination with randoms who will report you for trying to say something or soak to catch up on xp (Different if your grouped up.


Edit:

I’ve already answered the information in my last post but personally I don’t think it matters how long a match is. If its 15-20 minutes vs surrender an “unwinnable” match after 10 minutes is still quicker and gets me into a potentially enjoyable match earlier.
Personally when they made the queues longer to get better matches everyone got upset. So why aren’t people upset when they wait 30 sec for a terrible match?

It’s in LOL and doesn’t get abused… are you saying that HOTS is more toxic than lol?

Very constructive…

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There’s no need to “fix” Quick Match. It does exactly what it’s suppose to, get player into matches QUICKLY. It does that because there are few other requirements placed upon it to do it’s job.

If you are looking for matches that focus on providing players with an opportunity to draft a hero composition that you feel would be better tuned to competing against your opponents hero composition, you should be playing Unranked or Storm League. Those two queues were specifically designed to provide that feature.

A surrender button won’t solve the issue of you queuing up in the game mode that doesn’t match your personal requirements. Instead, you would probably be smashing that surrender button the instant the game didn’t favor an outcome you wanted. No doubt a scenario that Blizzard wants to avoid.

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There is lots of issues with QM only a fool someone who doesn’t play QM would say there isn’t… Now if QM is all about getting a “quick” match doesn’t it make sense to have a surrender option for when it doesn’t work so you can get another match "quick"ly if this one is terribly 1 sided?

Unfortunately that isn’t always the option in ANZ. We already have a smaller pool of players. I do prefer ranked but If I want to play and the “trolls” are online I get stuck playing QM.
On a side note; I’m really glad we have ARAM now but there are some players who just want to run it down mid and I wish that they would just play that mode.

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Dude, it’s QUICK MATCH. The only problem it could actually have would be if it didn’t match you QUICKLY.

If you are looking for something else out of the game, it’s because you are playing the wrong game mode. End of story.

No. 1. you’d be smashing that surrender button the moment you felt like you couldn’t win, which, judging by your outlook is most probably every game, 2. if it’s “not working” it’s not getting you into a match QUICKLY.

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So I have been waiting for my latest QM for 5 minutes (See above about ANZ) and last night was 1 hour for a ranked match before I tabbed back to HOTS after forgetting I was queued.

Just because it’s a quick match doesn’t mean it has to be 1 sided. Personally I hate when people “try” new heroes in ranked and becuase there is no unranked here I can either practice my new heroes in Ranked or QM but I find it hard to get good practice when it’s a stomp or be stomped situation.

I actually used to be a QM only player and I personally think it’s gotten worse in the years since I mained QM.

Dude I really don’t like this attitude of yours. You are assuming I will give up, I am always trying to bring my team together (I do understand the irony of saying that and making a Surrender vote option).
I have it set to always join voice and I am quite passionate about this game but sometimes like in my above example its a lost cause or others have given up and just sitting there and the smurf masters on the other team are choosing to prolong the game instead of just wining at 10 minutes which they could have done.

I have gotten so many comebacks when I am grouped up with my mates when all hope seems lose. In fact I love those matches so much.

He was powering up like a true saiya.

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Well that’s exactly what a “surrender” feature would be for, so you could “give up”. No doubt because you thought that your comp couldn’t possibly win. It’s the entire premise of this topic.

Well. True. This actually is a problem.

Doesn’t get abused? Then can you tell me why my teammates immediately use surrender when it gets unlocked? Even tho we weren’t losing?
(I don’t play LoL anymore so idk how is its state right now. But still)

Also like I said, they already confirmed that surrender option won’t be in the game.

How dare you OP to ask for a button in a game that may require the devs to do extra programing work? Do you know how precious those man hours are?

There are more important issues that need regular updates such as skins and anomalies that no one asked for.

And on top of that, you display your qm opinion in the forums where ranked players only dwell.

Tbh there is nothing wrong with surrendering because the key is to have fun and not to spend your time with a miserable toxic teammate or an AI or 9 deaths qm feeding valla who keeps pewpew over and over aimlessly.

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Then just press Alt+F4. There is no need to start a potential flame war between team members just because you want to quit.

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No.

The entire team would have to surrender.

Just try to turn the tide.