Ultimate goody vs evil from each universe

Who is it? And why
Really intrested in the starcraft because most characters are grey

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Starcraft doesn’t really have a big good. Most protagonists are their own brand of selfish that happens to be beneficial for the universe.

They do however have a big bad. Amon, the insane Xel’naga who views life itself as a failed experiment and seeks to eradicate it from the universe. (Himself included, but he dies last obviously.)

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Sorry sorry I meant from heroes currently in hots. As heroes no announcers

Amon would see his cause as just so… you’re argument contradicts itself.

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Warcraft: Arthas VS Medivh or Alexstrasza

Starcraft: Tassadar vs Alarak

Diablo: Tyreal vs Diablo

Overwatch: Tracer vs Hanzo or Junkrat

Originals: Vikings vs Qhira?

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The delusions of the wicked are not something one considers when deciding if someone is evil or not.

If you are killing someone, and that someone was not trying to kill you, You. Are. Evil.

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Im a bit rusty on medivh. He was possessed. Now is in a relationship with a orc who kills a king. Is that pure good? Thought uther would be mentioned or so :stuck_out_tongue:
Plz dont butcher me on wow lore

Murlocs vs everyone else.

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Medan has been retconned out of canon, so the super creepy relationship that resulted in him is likely equally non-canon.

Medivh is considered the big good because currently he’s siding with Azeroth as a whole, so he’s equally heroic for both the Alliance and Horde.

Uther is more heroic from a moral standpoint, but he’s staunchly anti-horde on account of the whole “invading the planet and murdering a bunch of humans” thing.

Raynor is probably the only true good-guy from Starcraft. Artanis and sane Kerrigan come close, but they don’t quite match Jimmy’s quality of character. He’s just such a good guy.

We don’t have any “true baddy” from SC in HotS yet. That would require Ma’lash, Ulrezaj, Narud/Duran, Arcturus Mengsk, or Amon himself.

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Jimmy is just the space sherrif.
Im not sure about zagara. She felt untrustworthy in hots. (Heart of the storm)

Raynor is a nice guy, but Artanis isn’t that good, a lot of people pushed him to the point it seems he is a good guy, but without that he would be as grey as any other protoss hero.
Sane Kerrigan killed millons just becase she wanted to kill Arcturus ASAP, I don’t think she is good girl.

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He is far more than that.

She didn’t actually kill all that many civilians. She explicitly delayed her invasion of Korhal so Valerian could evacuate civvies, also granting Arcturus additional time to fortify his palace. She certainly isn’t clean, but she’s definitely not any more evil than anyone else in a war.

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Well, her original plan was to destroy Arcturus at any cost but then space Anduin intervened. Also she is the direct responsible of Niadra.
I accept she isn’t evil anymore but she isn’t good either.

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Starcraft Good: Raynor. He never really did anything to make people suffer. Except Mengsk.

Starcraft Bad: Amon. He isn’t in HotS but still he’s the ultimate bad. If I remember correctly he’s the reason for the Zerg becoming bad.

Warcraft Good: There’s not just one. The lore is too big. I’d have to say it would be anyone from the Wrynn bloodline, Jaina or Thrall and possibly Tyrande. I’ve only played up to Warcraft 3 so anything that happened after that I’ve only read about.

Warcraft Bad: Sargeras. Not in HotS but hear me out.
Kil’jaeden had Gul’dan make a portal (with Medivh’s help) to Azeroth and started the whole shebang. Kil’jaeden mentored Ner’zhul and caused the Lich king to be created. Zerzhul corrupted Arthas. Arthas is the reason Sylvanas is the way she is. Kil’jaeden also caused Illidan and Kael’thas to be bad. Kil’jaeden worked for Sargeras and was his right hand man. Everything that was bad about the Warcraft lore was caused by Sargeras.

Diablo Good: Tyrael. Need I explain more?

Diablo Bad: Diablo. Need I explain more?

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I think you are confusing Medivh with Khadgar, who was his apprentice. Medivh is still seen as a villain in WoW lore, and is dead, so can’t side with anyone at the moment.

A full team of only murky that has no egg cooldown

I say actions speak louder than words. The fact that she was willing to let civilians go even if it delayed her revenge against easily one of the most evil humans in SC lore carries more moral weight than the fact that she had initially been willing to steamroll over those civvies. She realized that what she was doing was wrong, and so held back.

That one was more out of necessity, as the Protoss themselves would have made sure to kill her if she didn’t kill them first. It was effectively self-defense, though her carelessness with Niadra did lead to further conflict down the line due to her obsession with killing the Protoss.

Additionally, due to Khalai Protoss’ social structure, they don’t really have civilians. All members of the Templar caste are warriors and all members of the Khalai caste were the researchers and phasesmiths who supplied them with their equipment. The closest thing they had to civilians would be Probes, which were non-sentient AIs and therefore are not people.

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I fail to see how any of these proves she’s good.
Just for the record, I f you wanna know who is a goody you must think, “what would Tassadar do?” since he is barely a character but ideals incarned.
Stop pointless fights, sacrifice himself to save others and avoid any path of venganze… holy cow, Tassadar is a space Buda!

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Zerg were always “bad” because they’re barely more than animals. Just intelligent enough to understand that beings feel pain when you kill them, but not intelligent enough to care about anything but their own growth.

Amon modified them so they were space capable, and created a hivemind with a malicious “queen” in the center of it. That made them more destructive to the universe, but they were always evil in the sense that they’d kill you without hesitation if they thought your genes could make them stronger.

He’s back as of Legion, and while most people still consider him a villian, his actions are undeniably for the good of Azeroth.