This game really needs all chat!!!
All of the competitive games have all chats.
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No thanks. If you wanna communicate to your enemies (i.e. be toxic), you have sprays and taunts already.
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You really want to toxicfy this community even more than it already is?!
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Maybe they want to say nice things to the enemy.
“Good kill chum, you really got my goose!”
I’ll support this, and while we’re at it let’s add the ability to ping the opposition… friendly pings only of course.
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The “toxicity” element won’t change at all.
I miss all chat because having civil discussions in it was always a pretty good feeling, and it wasn’t uncommon for someone to try blaming their team in it to save face only for the enemy team to point out just how bad they’re playing too.
I think not having all chat is a bit of a mistake. The game can feel very barren when your team isn’t communicating and watching your team explode on each other can be frustrating to watch.
HotS is design to have minimal downtime between fights, so I can get why the would try not to encourage players to be speaking, but in other Mobas I found that even with a lot more down time players were typically responsible with the chat and prioritized gameplay over chat.
In those mobas I also found that on average there wasn’t as much finger pointing going on. It was still pretty common but HotS can be pretty ridiculous in the sheer frequency with which you get some really wound up teammates.
Having another outlet for those teammates can possibly be more healthy for the environment because getting the point of view of the enemy team can often bring them back down to earth when they’re being told by both teams that they’re in the wrong.
It’s easy for these kinds of players to shut out the opinions of their teammates when there isn’t a more impartial group to tell them how it is.
Unironically this.
It’s pretty rare for me to feel outplayed by people and when someone does surprise me with some good plays I want to do more than give them an upvote after the game, assuming they get a card.
Being called various insults by the enemy team is something I much, much prefer over the nonstop infighting I’ve been witnessing for so long.
You didn’t mentioun B stepping. If you really want to tell something important, the best way is B stepping. People really like watching as you B stepping. This even improve your team teamwork. It’s relaxing to watch.
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Good point chum, you really got my goose.
smartarsness aside, actually good point.
mehhhh considering there’s many toxic player’s around and trolls this wouldn’t really work out for this game. and trolls would even tell where their teammates are and what are they doing so they can ruin the game faster or afk crybabies who sit in base and laugh at their team they would definitely do their best to make their team lose through all chat. so no thanks don’t need more ways for these people to ruin games enough we have feeders / afkers we don’t need another way to make losers talk to the enemy team and spy for them
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Implementing as is would be a minor mistake, revamping the reporting system would need to come first.
Most people playing the game actually want to play, but people losing deliberately should shortly be banned no matter which approach they take for it.
And given the nature of the game when someone’s already willing go the the lengths of afking/feeding it’s incredibly difficult to make any comeback. Them typing in all chat isn’t going to make you lose the game any harder.
no of course it would make it harder let’s say you’re soloing boss and that kid use all chat to tell them that you’re soloing the boss and you get ganked? giving them free boss and dying or just stopping doing the boss cause he already told them you’re on it. hell yes they can make the game extra harder than it already is with them being in base doing nothing other than telling the enemy team what are you doing atm
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Why play a game if you believe each and every one of it’s players to be spiteful, stupid, arrogant and petty?
This is a very minor issue in other games and only occurs in fringe cases. If they made all chat a reality it would have a few hiccups in the first month while people adjusted but overall should be healthier for player mentality.
Each time a teammate took actions I believed severe enough to consider reporting I received a notice shortly afterward that player had been suspended.
I understand they don’t want to devote resources to managing reports but it’s something they really should do. If a player is immature and constantly causes issues for their team they should be banned because they ruining the game for many other players.
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There is all chat in tournaments, it works because pros are generally a good sport and reasonable people. The average players in SL are not. And even they only used it to say “gg” at the end.
Though that is because tournament games happen in a Custom lobby where all chat exists. People who played old arams before they became official will remember that from the arams advertised in General Chat.
All the competitive people dont communicate with the other team team though
well what you’re missing is these type of player’s can make as many accounts as they want as long as IP ban don’t exist in hots. they already ruin the games on purpose just because they don’t like you personally / don’t like your hero i had people talking trash cause i was playing Nova and refusing to even heal me / run away when i come to help them etc…
you won’t lose anything if you get banned you make new account do the same things you did before the ban and repeat you lose nothing but you succeeded in ruining the games for other player’s why would they care if they get banned? they simply don’t care
competitive don’t exist in QM / Unranked even Ranked. only place for competitive is through Tournaments where they respect each other’s and they’re not “randoms” as they form their own team of people they know to compete vs other team’s but when it comes to randoms what is competitive? or more importantly what is “respect” ? someone tells you anything and you just be like “reported” that’s how hots became. so imagine handing over an all chat? oh boy people would use it to write “rekt” as they kill someone of enemy team = so much fun right? i mean bstepping exist for a reason same for sprays.
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That’s why an extremely low level account receiving a report should summarily be investigated and shortly banned should the report have grounds. I guarantee you someone who gets their account banned every 3 days and has no access to heroes or has constantly dropped money on hero bundles only to get banned will shortly find a new hobby.
Having someone follow up on reports means players won’t be able to abuse them and no one undeserving will be punished for it.
A team game relies on it’s community to make the game enjoyable. With a stagnant community like this games can quickly become tiresome and frustrating.
You seem to have dealing with a lot of insufferable players and as a result have little faith in the community. This is not something that should be allowed to pass.
yeah well, for every one of you there’s about 50 people who want all chat for the sole reason of being toxic, so no thanks.
and of course there’s the issue of trolls giving away your team’s position etc. the juice just ain’t worth the squeeze, as they say.
I say no to all types of chat. If All Chat is implemented, I’d turn off the feature immediately. If you can’t turn it off, then the game will be uninstalled.
I have been conditioned to expect the worst from All Chat. I already get the worst in Team / Party chat. Why add 5-6 more people to the list?
Blizz doesn’t have that type of community to be civil. It has been years and nothing has changed. It’s extremely rare for you to run into someone cool, online. People are different in person.
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i have dealt with the worst of the worst type of player’s when i’m not with my 5 stack. like actual people that act like i did something to them in real life or whatsoever i even remember last time i was insulted in whisper for winning a game vs that player as Nova the amount of hate i got was unbelievable. i mean i take the game seriously i play to win but insulting people for losing to them? that’s not me yet they do it to me for no reason just cause they lost.
i got whispered multiple times after games that i lost or won and even got harassed some times i don’t care much about words written online but i can imagine if someone using the all chat to act like a douche to my team and make them stop playing cause they got hurt over what that person said etc.
the reason i don’t want all chat in the game is because people would give up even faster due to someone being toxic in all chat towards them and toxic people don’t care about getting banned they can always come back again and again to do what they do best which is ruin games. and the same person that harassed me the last time didn’t even get banned his account still there and he plays the game.
honestly that could be said about any moba game or i could even say any online game in general when it comes to civil community there’s always toxicity everywhere… but yeah it’s pretty sad to say the least
I don’t like this suggestion, because outside authoritarian or third world countries, every single person is innocent until proven guilty.
Account level, forum trust level, rank etc. should give someone absolutely zero preferential treatment when reported. Everyone should only be judged on their actions.
Even if it is Fan or Chu8 himself who act wrong, they must be banned or suspended like a level 4 newbie who did the same thing at the same speed and quality of investigation.
(edit -Though I know the real world is not this fair - Grubby overturned his silence within 15 minutes by contacting his personal friend at Blizzard, something a regular player can never do. The world is really unfair sometimes.)
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