That 1 report can happen over multiple games. The community is a lot more toxic than you think. The main reason why some people don’t see as much toxicity is because they don’t say anything, so there’s no reason for someone to flame them.
Often times the rest of the team just says nothing. I’d rather take initiative and ask teammates for help or suggest ideas on how we improve, but I guess I should just not ever try because of the off chance that I’m with toxic people.
If the fault is entirely on the person who made the false report then you should be able to appeal it and show that your chat log had nothing that could be considered offensive.
I would very much like to share it with you but we’re apparently not allowed to discuss such things on the forums. These devs are wonderful. Toxic players have to be ignored and everything is supposedly hunky dory.
I’m not asking you to share it with me, I’m saying if you appeal any disciplinary action they look at your chat logs and it would show you never said anything inappropriate. Then your silence gets repealed.
That’s the problem; if you ever said anything inappropriate. Context is being ignored completely. Have an argument with someone on your team, like a Valla that refuses to participate in team fights? You get punished. You’re required to block them and move on instead of trying to communicate and reason with them for the betterment of the team and the game.
The word that keeps sticking out to me is “argument”. If you are having an argument with someone, you are not communicating with them and reasoning with them. You are having a shouting match about who is right.
Now, even with a shouting match you can do that without saying inappropriate things. We have phrases for that. Focusing on the issue, being the bigger person, not resorting to childish behaviour, treating others how we expect to be treated not how we are actually treated, etc.
You can’t control other people’s behaviour, just your own. So be the best most perfect version of you that you can and these sorts of problems will affect you less.
If these people are as belligerent and intolerable as you say they are, be nice, report them when they say something nasty, and they will get caught by the same report system that you seem to be.
people should not be awarded for trying, you are letting them settle for mediocrity (sorry if the spelled that wrong) if you didn’t do good and failed it should inspire you to get better, that is how I taught myself when first playing games, heck my first games with online play that I actually played was halo reach/halo 4 I did not allow myself to play multiplayer till I could beat them both on legendary difficulty (the highest difficulty) backwards and blindfolded, because I knew that if I couldn’t handle AI how could I handle real people? and I strove to be better and be adaptable and learn new information quickly, mechanics, etc if I don’t know say the mechanics of a boss in a raid, I look up a guide I don’t just YOLO it, and I never ask people more then what I offer, if I am inexperienced I will not be “EXP ONLY MUST HAVE 1000 KILLS!!!” that is how I have played games up to now and will continue to
I think Riot did actual studies on this and found that people who keep negativity (and honestly small talk in general) to a minimum win more games. You’d have to scratch over the old forums to find the actual study, but they do mention it on the loading screen before games as a hint.
so if you see someone making a mistake that they have made in multiple games and that mistake causes them to lose and they don’t know about yet you see it, you should stay silent… that is what is wrong with the world this day
Silent? Not necessarily. Just diplomatic. You need to understand that getting advice from complete strangers is not always welcome and criticism - almost never.
If you want to give a suggestion, a good way to establish a conversation is to open with something like ‘hey, x - mind a few tips?’. I’ve found this works wonders to break the ice in a variety of situations. Of course, not everyone is amicable to this sort of interaction - especially if they are already on tilt and you just need to cut your losses. But I’d say 75% of the time people are open to learning if you frame it correctly.
A little bit of psychology goes a long way.
EDIT: I’ve been trying to learn Maiev since I got her in a chest. It…has not been going well. I’d welcome someone teaching me the basics, but the extent of the offer has been some variety of ‘OMG this Maeiv so heavy report plz’.
I tried that once with a lucio player, being like “hay try X build that I use for lucio and I CARRY games hardcore with it” he tried it and when we started to lose you know what he said? “MAN I wish I had X talent instead of this crappy other talent that you said I should use” yeah people are not as receptive as you think and hope they are and that is not the only example of similar situations I have had, and if there is a high skilled hero I want to play I TAKE IT TO AI TO LEARN THE BASICS not QM and ruin other peoples games
Yup. Some people aren’t. Especially when the game has already gone sour - chances are the guy who is doing badly knows it and is embarrassed. This can quickly become defensiveness and tilt - and the last thing you want is someone piling on.
AI teaches…very little. Bots play nothing like people and it’s extremely easy to learn the wrong habits, especially as a tank/support. This is why we have the new player bracket, MMR and team league for people who want to ensure they have people close to their skill.
Now - if you wanted to fix the problem of people diving into games on heroes they don’t know, a mandatory ‘learn this hero’ tutorial section similar to the intro quests would be an interesting idea. Probably not financially viable, but still.
Yeah, I would. But I’m not a little cry baby about things.
we need more people like you
Possibly. People are too thin-skinned these days. But you aren’t going to change that by acting like a twerp in videogames.
You can’t look at people and say ‘this is how they are, how do I change them?’. You need to look at people and say ‘this is how they are, how do I work around that?’.
and what if there is no “working around it” you cant win a lot of team fights 4v5 so I am supposed to say nothing and let him make me have a bad time in a 20+minute game because he is playing bad, because lets face it no one has fun when they are losing in a stomp
Yeah, that exactly what you should be doing.
if so that is sad, stupid, and is truly pathetic that that is what this community has devolved into
You’ll find this in every community that involve other people.
and that is truly sad and pathetic that that is how people are, and it is what is wrong with this world