The Hammer Problem

Hammer does too much damage in siege mode, AND, she cannot be knocked out of siege mode. She even gets to move in siege mode. This has to change.

Oh hey there hammer, it’d be a shame if a chromie, kael’thas, nazeebo or Jaina were to show up.

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What? I’ve played Hammer more than any other hero… She’s certainly not indestructible or unstoppable. If you don’t know what you’re doing with her, you can get destroyed pretty quickly.

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Blizzard wanted to fulfill the fantasy of Hammer being an ā€œunstoppable tankā€ hence why they gave her baseline 50 armor and unstoppable at level 4 LOL. I think at some point Blizzard completely forgot the counterplay that was intended for this hero was that shes suppose to be a sitting duck in siege mode but removed that for the most part.

Now she kinda just gets to do whatever she wants on top of having a billion escape options and when support by a good comp you almost can’t do anything.

Chromie got nerfed so hard with her range she’s just food to Hammer now.

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Li ming orb build will blast her in another plane of existence.

Also take advatage of a lonely hammer. She needs tp be baby sat to be effective

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basically, any mage is a good counter to Hammer. Most have some sort of high damage long delay AOE.

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ā€œI rule the Horde now, Gul’dan. Not you, not your warlocks. Doomhammer alone. And there will be no more dishonor. No more treachery. No more deceit and lies!ā€
– The Orc Statue. Irvine, CA.

#Level666SpinalTap #DoomHemorrhage #BrainHammer #LittleLions

Baseline 50 armor while in seige mode (otherwise its 25 armor), every…16 seconds. Hell unstoppable only works in seige mode anyhow. There’s your counterplay right there, don’t blow every single spell you have on hammer in the 2 second window her armor is up, or hell, stun her before she gets it off.

She…Is.

Sitting duck does not mean non-lethal or unkillable duck, it means she is a slow immobile target.

You melt the things in front of hammer at that point. Maiev can dash in and pull hammer forward, mages can throw a plethora of spells, heavier compositions that she can’t melt down can easily just walk up and beat the crap out of her, the only thing stopping you is the lack of coordination.

Also billion? She has 1 knockback and 1 movement speed buff every 30 seconds, probius has the same thing and he’s possibly even more deadly than hammer tbh.

Cough cough BULLSHET cough

What exactly is the hammer gonna do to the chromie? Slowly siege up and move at 40% move speed at her?

Terrifying. If only chromie had ranged spells that dealt damage to hammer.

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Hanzo got nerfs all over as well, even though all of his shots could be body blocked.

Hammer with a decent team near her is too effective, more so with high armor, boosters, slowing mines and large knock back. I an sadly all down for changes to make her less of a overlord in team fights.

Even the Esports teams know how powerful/cheese she is, every now and then seen drafted as a last pick and steamroll their way to victory.

If nothing else Blizzard will do something in response to how she is used in Esports scene.

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She is not used. She uses the team so she can shine.

Bad players hate carriers.

When there’s a good carrier in the team, they choose to play their way and don’t let the carrier lead.

The next match, one of the 4 guys that didn’t want to obey the carrier gets to be the carrier of that team.

And in that match, the other 4 players do not want to be carried nor to be lead. They choose to form a little group of 4 and play their own way.

The 4 players always lose the match, because the carrier threw the match. It was the carriers fault.

The problem is that you all get to play all the roles, and you all never put yourselves in someone else’s shoes.

You have had connectivity issues, you have had a lot of matches where you get blamed for trying to do something, but your team didn’t do what you wanted to do, and you know that it would have actually work.

A lot of times you blame the person that didn’t want to do what the team wanted to do…

It’s just like blaming yourself, but you don’t remember that you were once in that situation.

You must play against better hammers than I get. Mine just usually siege and pew pew pew till the entire enemy team shows up and kills them.

Seriously a good keathuzad, samuro, chromie, Kealthas, or jaina can make hammer miserable. A valeera can silence, and Diablo or Garrosh can toss a sieged hammer around all day.

In order for her to be effective she needs a 4 man group that plays ā€œProtect the hammer at all costsā€ team comp. Without that she free feed.

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Or Li Ming kt ktz Varian illidan genji Diablo Malganis artanis cassia Kerrigan the list goes on and on.

Nothing to see here, just the OP with yet ANOTHER terrible take on the game.

Its like i see a ridiculous balance topic and i already know its the OP, kinda like the new mekagoo around here…

In QM, where you can’t counterpick her, may be pretty hard to take down if her team know how to protect her (and if Hammer herself know how to properly play). But in any other scenario she can be stopped with a bit of effort.

And its when she is guarded that its gg. Problem one is that she can remain and move in siege indefinitely. Problem two is that here damage is off the charts. Check numbers from matches. She often has 3x the total damage of Raynor on her same team.

It is definitely the QM that is the problem.