I just recently heard Sylvanas is going to be reworked in December
but why??? does she really need a rework??? she is the
least expected heroes to be reworked while there are other
heroes that still need to be reworked!
blizzard just destroyed the specialist characters and their important role by removing the XP gained from the fort and keeps because it was their main role to gain XP for the whole team but now beside this genius action that they did, they want to rework Sylvanas!!! OMG!!! really? can someone tell me why does she need a rework?
she is so good that I turned the result of many battles only with her and alone! so Iâd never expected that she needs to be reworked unless you want to destroy her!!
and you guys just nerfed her recently by applying a patch that causes her E ability no longer stuns keeps and forts so unless you want to destroy her I donât see any other reason that she needs to be reworked.
Her ability to disable buildings is pretty annoying and makes it hard to design maps. Also she is going to be a ranged assasin soon.
How do you know that? Do you have the dev teams internal priority list? Because your own does not really count here.
Also doing changes for changes sake is an idiotic idea, there needs to be a plan for what to do with a hero first, no matter how high it is on their list, before anything should be done.
She kinda did need it especially after they nerfed her trait. Never really any reason to pick her, always multitude of heroes to choose from that bring more to the table. There are many heroes that needed to be reworked way more than her but never the less she still has been in need of rework too.
LOL, yes, yes she did need a rework. I donât understand why anyone could be surprised it was one of the most obvious to come reworks. She is one of the worst heroes in the game currently with no reason to draft her, specialists are getting phased out. Its been common knowledge for months now and its honestly a good thing.
Now they might actually have a purpose in the game other than to cater to players who donât like fighting and would rather force their teams to be a man down while they split push all game.
Oh and no offense to you but Sylvanas will only look good in lower skilled games or QM where people are running around like headless chickens that have 0 clue what a minimap is letting her get value. Sorry not sorry for being blunt, I just have no sympathy for the specialist players.
not really. i have seen ppl requesting her rework ever since they neutered her aoe structure lockdown. which i am not complaining about at all, she was definitely OP in that regard when played by an organized team since she could keep locking stuff down. this being in contrast to lazer gazlowe which presents its own problems and cant constantly lock stuff, and arthas who can set down a long duration lock but has to do it blowing an ult.
i think they will probably rework her into even more of a single target role than she currently is since right now her place has kind of been disrupted by changes.
Since theyâve removed the whole Specialist classification I think itâs the best that Blizzard is going to rework or at last make some changes to those Heroes that will have theyâre role changed.
In that way they can properly fit their new classification at best.
The word âreworkâ doesnât scare me because, thus far, every rework has really just been a talent rework while the hero kit remains mostly unchanged.
I expect Sylvanas is still going to be a sneaky, ghost-dashing archer that has a great lane push, but they might remove her disable-a-structure power to prevent early-game cheese strats to destroy a fort and get catapults before 5 minutes elapse.
If I had to guess, I think theyâll lean into her Possession/DoT spread functions. This is all personal speculation, of course.
She should be on the list for a rework I think. She should however, be low on the list. Thereâs heroes with serious issues that theyâre just letting sit.
In all honesty, it was the player base that ruined sylv, far to many people played her as a pve bot and made the team 4v5 all game. I played 4 games in a row last night as her, won all 4 and mvp 3 times. I never once split push over obj. She isnt useless people play her uselessly.
So I am sad about the rework but I understand.
Except those heroes such as Chen arenât getting their role changed, specialists are getting phased out so it makes perfect sense to help them to fit into their role better for the ones that need it. Stitches is getting reworked in December too which I admit makes no sense to me.
You probably could have won drafting most other assassins 9/10 is the thing, why bring her when you can bring something that packs more of a punch all while having good clear and ability to get mercs easy like a GM for example. Idk I just donât get it I guess, I donât get why someone would draft her over other picks.
She essentially all ready is.
You really donât know what they are talking about or working on internally. Because something hasnât been announced doesnât mean they arenât working out a solution. The Stitches/Sylvanas reworks that they just announced have been in development for months at this point.
I donât think theyâll change any heroâs base kit much unless they really need to (e.g., with Hammer where giving her a 3rd functional basic ability made sense, since Siege Mode really felt like a trait anyway).
First my Tycus, and now my undead waifuâŚthey just keep taking my heroes from meâŚwhats next? They going to make Leoric a support?
I made another post, but the amount of XP given by forts, keeps, towers, ect, is a VERY small amount compared to the overall XP earned through soaking, ganks, and proper kills.
Soaking is going to be even MORE important in the next patch compared to now.
Finally, any Sylv who made push a priority was doing it wrong - Sylv is an assassin who can shut down towers to allow her team to aggresively dive.
Reworking heroes to improve them is not âtakingâ them away.
It is to me when they become unplayable to me. I cannot play Tycus anymore, I preferred him as an ability attacker, but NOW you have to AA (his AA range is crap, and his survivability isnt that great since it seems they removed his first ad talent and that other talent I forget the name of that would shield you) and if I want to just AA all game I would play someone like Valla.
I like Sylvanas for the map play. Playing the map, splitting, being master of objective damage. Thatâs what I player her for. Sure I use her to help with clean up but I prefer to play the map and rotate for side pushes when I can take advantage and NOT hurt my team.
I would prefer they not ruin her for me like they did Tycus. If they do, I will leave again for good this time.
Sylv getting reworked was announced since her trait got changed.
Tychus unplayable? What? Also, the things you just said arenât true, she isnt the master of objective damage, youâre not suppose to be split pushing sheâs suppose to be in the 3 or 4 man if you for whatever reason draft her. Tychus has great survivability so idk what you are talking about, you talent Odin, the thing at 7 if you need it/there are things that can take advantage of it like roots and stuns I think they were and Neosteel Coating at 13 I think it was and you are pretty much set.
Heâs deceptively tanky, sorry you couldnât adapt to him and donât like him anymore for your personal tastes.
I am a beta player bro. I played a MUCH different Tycus then what is around now and compared to old Tycus? YES, he is unplayable if you preferred and played the old one and old Tycus did not need Odin to stay alive and not go pop and be tanky on his own.
Also it seems you have a very narrow minded view of how to play a map. There IS merit in split pushing, not all the time, like a lot of people do. What makes a good split pusher is knowing when and where to do it, and when you will get more by grouping. You dont always have to group to be effective with Sylvanas, and the same is true of always splitting with her. Course you 99% of the time want to group with your team for an Objective or Objective push (Boss, objective mob or vehicle like the Zerg swarm or dragon knight.)
There is more then one way to play then to ARAM or death ball all game long.
You deciding not to give them a chance doesnât mean that they are unplayable. And donât try to claim that you do. You literally just wrote off the Sylvanas rework with us knowing next-to-nothing about it, let alone being able to try it.
Sounds like you are just looking for an excuse to do that if youâre crying about trivial things like this.
Tychus has always been an AA character from day 1. If you were playing him badly, that isnât their fault for highlighting his strength and downplaying the way he was never intended to be played.