I’m on a win streak, TL, overall 79% win rate. WTF was I teamed up with a 31.2%, 32.7%, 33.9, and a 51%
vs 50%,47%,42%, 51, 50
The 31 and 32 were a duo, said nothing, first pick valla and Ray. Both AA heros, into Thrall, then promptly counted by cassia.
So my question is, why does blizzard think this in any way would be fun for me? Why was I punished for playing and winning.
Yeah. It is like the stupid system expecting you to carry those poor loser with less than 40% win rate against a stacked team. This is what happened when you win too much. The system will deliberately bring you to hell under the pretext “they are in same MMR with you”.
It is kinda funny right when they could just make a team with:
79%, 31%, 50%, 34%, 47%
vs
50%, 32% , 51%, 42%, 51%
but lol no, just put all 30% WR players with 79% because 79% player can carry them to victory.
The game doesn’t match you based on win%
and you loosed? or won? Could you share information about the match? I’m interested.
Welcome to the morale stunting devourer of hope we affectionately know as…The Algorithm. You cannot win in the end.
Actually I had two of these games in a row.
This is silver TL btw.
First game, one of the 30%ers who was playing Thrall was complaining at 10 min that no one was helping him, after racking up 9 deaths, which was quite comical considering Thrall was our solo laner. I was playing JO, with stats around 15-20-1. We won but it was frustrating.
Second game, I played ming, cause we needed some burst damage. but guess what the duo 30%ers first lock Raynor and valla into thrall, then countered by cassia. It should be common knowledge that two AA heroes is not optimal. yet alone fist picking two of them. We lost this game, not getting a single obj. on cursed hallow.
nope, but what it IS doing is averaging the MMR. so someone that just came off a heavy win streak has a higher MMR for their rank. which means the system has to pair them with someone with lower MMR for their rank (an extreme loser). so thats why it appears the system is out to get you when you are on the win streaks.
im hoping this changes actually once they remove ‘ranked points’ and move only to MMR. if the system matches only on MMR it would be better tbh. the devs have said in the past how the MMR even overlaps within the ranks so there is no clear cut MMR for a certain rank. which is kind of a problem tbh. if it was MMR only though the system would have an easier time because it could just grab all the players at one MMR level and match them.
The system matches players only according to their MMR. The problem is that TL isn’t an solo queue only mode and that’s why teams just need to have the same average MMR (but there can be a huge difference between players within the team - only the average needs to be similar). Any mode that has the option the play as a party has this kind of matchmaking so expecting to get matched with/against players of similar MMR when you solo queue in those modes is not realistic. You can basically get matched with/against all sorts of players.
Solo queue modes can match players with/against players that have the same MMR.
So try to figure out who is the highest player of the team and maybe let that one get his preferred role and let the lower players play supportive roles. (i play TL with a bronze player and he just picks morales, follows me and gives me stimdrones and we win most games like this).
Figure out who the weakest link in the enemy team might be and exploit that player. Anyway you can always be lucky/unlucky when you get random teammates.
Also stats of the games to see the bad players even were nad and not just people with bad luck in 10 games
Also was that lifetime or season and gamemode specific?
The stats im referencing are season specific, I dont recall the overall win rates of players but none were above 45%, my overall is above 50%
It should then. (20 max characters)
you’d think that you honestly believe you are supposed to maintain at 80% win rate through the rest of the season and beyond. what’s your starter sample size? 10 games? 15? eye roll.
do you think you were the best player on your team for all of those 80% games? could you have been put on an easy role while someone else did the great plays? perhaps your team was just OK and the other team had the players you are just now noticing on their side giving you the free win?
do you have any perspective at all?
Before i took a break from the game i had a 88+ wr with a winning streak of 19 games if i remember correctly.
After the 13 i started to get placed with terrible people (which had no sense becouse i was climbing the ladder right?).
After 5 or 6 defeats one after another which had people from UNDER ranks, leavers and trolls I stopped playing that season. Even some teammates realized that there was always 1 or 2 guys without awareness.
But thats just my experience, bad luck? Maybe.
Ps: i dont mind loosing i make mistakes, but some things are obvious.
No I expect fair games… these games with sub 40% teammates are forced losses.
Thank you. The remaining fanbase doesn’t understand why queue times are long. They don’t understand why everybody quit. They just assume people are toxic, bad people, don’t understand the vision, or are fickle gamers that bounce between fads. It’s always been the matchmaker producing these games.
You should never have a winrate over 55% over hundreds of games. That’s not balanced and means you are playing against people who are too low to your skill level.
The higher the rank, the more opposing players will punish mistakes and bad macro decisions. But regardless, there always will be players that are playing above their true skill level and they will lose a lot (meaning you will lose if on their team) until they fall down to their level. Those players will be on the other team too, it’s just bad luck that you got two in a row.
That is the theory but that is not the practice. I agree with you, I should be playing against people that are better than me. But that’s not what is happening. I’m habitually matched with at least one or two potatoes that do not belong in ranked play at all, coupled with what you are saying. So yes, im playing opposing teams at my skill or better, but the way it’s averaging it out, my team is far below the skill of my opponents. Thus, I have to play to perfection to win a game. This = frustration. I’m not good enough to carry people that can’t count to 5.
I can except losing, but I can not accept being outmatched by the nature of match making. Before the game even starts.