now that we are getting minor patches, could we start with a nerf to this ridiculously OP hero?
Nearly 57% winrate. So much mobility that he is unkillable and can lane the whole map. High dmg on top of it.
Something has to give.
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Samuro is number one OP hero even all team chase him not a chance to catch him. after troling he is geting invisible and have instant speed boost makes him harder to catch and leting him escape most of deadly situation for any other hero. Comparing him with Nova, he can push freely lanes, have more image and have unfair speed bost when he get invis. if he is cornered uses images and goes invis. And images do not have a expiration time… They are at lanes till destroyed.
Nerf Samuro seriously, not by changing his health, change its skills like: reduce invis time to 5 sec or remove speed boost when he is invis or rise cooldown of mirror image drasticaly.
His hidden abilities have already received heavy nerfs. His early game laning was ruined by deciding to take away image transmission clone swaps after hearthstoning.
Now he has to walk all the way from base to the lane just to get some of his health back if he already tapped the fountain, since he has zero self sustain or life steal.
He is only unkillable in late game.
He is completely inaccessible in low MMR games just like Probius due to his skill cap. He was changed from Hard to Very Hard last year for good reason. Few people play him below diamond
Is this some kind of joke post?
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I think we all know that the dev team decided long ago that Samuro was allowed to be OP.
For some reason.
Saying Zero self-sustain is not accurate.
While Stealthed, Samuro heals for 3% of his maximum Health every second,
Way of the Wind (Level 1)
Gain 40% Movement Speed for 3 seconds after entering or exiting Wind Walk. Casting Wind Walk heals Samuro for 4% of his maximum Health.
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I don’t think this was widely used by other people than Samuro mains. Nevertheless it was a poor choice to balance a hero around.
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Nevertheless it was a poor choice to balance a hero around.
It was. I wish it was an official feature instead of a bug, since being a bug there was really no rationale for keeping it in the game.
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It’s been MONTHS!!! When are we nerfing this BS?
It’s obnoxious. Completely taking over the game now that everyone knows how OP he is.
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Would be hard to find out what should be furher nerfed on him really. He is already hard to play and is a free hero to stack on.
If I wanted to chance something then I would rather give Aba a rework so melee heroes like Illidan and Butcher can finally get a buff. Aba is the solo reason why alot of melee heroes dont get buffed.
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Sorry, they are busy reworking deleting Tassadar.
Further nerfed?
Maybe revert the massive +20% heal buff? He wasn’t nerfed, he was overbuffed. There’s nothing hard about an OP hero.
but yes, i agree with Aba rework.
I dunno if you’ve noticed, but the game hasn’t been on a long streak of balance patches. I think we’ve had two in the past two and quarter years.
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Anyone remember the nerf chen memes? I think it is about time we nerf the oreo bear again, just for old time’s sake.
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IK, but I think it should be easy to just revert the buff he got and didn’t need. If they had time to buff him, they should have time to revert it.
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Missed a zero lol. I think there was a brief window where we got a little data before the massive buff and he was showing 50% win rate. Just to be conservative, I’d nerf his health regen from 3% to 1.5% and nerf his blade storm damage by 50% against minions.
Wouldn’t really call him hard to play anymore. Some people just treat him like a summoner and just run away almost never engaging in combat. That is the epitome of low skill and almost everyone picks his low skill ult. And the sad thing is, even though that won’t get you high win rates, it’s giving you much higher win rates than if you played that awfully on any other hero. That’s the issue with Samuro right now, bad and unskilled players are getting much better success than they deserve.
People keep saying this. But I don’t mind giving my enemies stacks if they lose the game.
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Problem is not Samuro problem is people dont know how to soak. Because they just take Arthanis, Azmodan, Nazeebro for double soaking on maps like towers of doom and its wierd for them why they losing when they are not able just pushing vs him. Maybe if people start play meta pick like Hoggar, Blaze and more they will stop crying about him.
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He is ridiculously overtuned and just better than most other heroes because he is entirely cooldown based, independent of any kind of resource to fuel his abilities.
If you fight him, he just right clicks you to death and if you attempt to push the lane you will surely die. All you can do is protect your towers but minions slowly chip at them over time and you are eventually forced to recall. This happens two or three times you lose the Fort.
After he gets Bladestorm there’s just no way around him. Even with his previous teleport trick there was a cap to how much he could heal during his brief visit to the spawn area (static value) so by mid game he would start to heal for a significantly smaller amount nowhere near the 90%+ which he was capable of early into the match.
With his current tuning, even 25 armor during Bladestorm is a complete overkill. No wonder he is impossible to kill.
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Shhh, Hogger is totally underperforming, please, nobody pick or ban him in my games.
Reduce it by 1% and he would be ok.