Reporting system in Heroes

So I constantly get asked in game about aspects of the game and for starters I don’t answer because most if not all of the questions are ambiguous resulting is easily misinterpreted results. My least favorite question is “How effective I feel the reporting system is?” The reporting system never asks what I don’t like about it, it merely asks if I feel it’s effective.

So lets talk about it. The first issue I have is all the options, most of which don’t work or aren’t relevant. I can report players for : abusive chat, abusive voice, intentionally dying, afk/non-participation, cheating, inappropriate name, and spam. The problem is several of these don’t even work and because they don’t work they result in the rest of the options being required because this unpoliced toxic behavior results in higher toxicity.

First of all Hots is a team game and by signing up you sign up to play as a team which involves communication. It shouldn’t be an option to mute your team. If you need to mute your team from the get go, the problem is you, not the team, and this game isn’t for you. That feature needs to be removed and it’s one of the worst aspects of the game. Not all feedback is constructive and that is a good thing it indicates to people they need to improve.

Lets talk about what Blizzard does and why it’s part of the problem. When you report someone for non-participation or intentionally dying, it generates no report that the system ever checks. These are thee most single handed toxic aspects of mobas and hots specifically and yet Blizzard does literally nothing. They actually result in more toxic behavior and by invalidating these report features Blizzard makes their games worse not better. Not only do they not look into these issues they aren’t even generated in their automated penalty program.

Next, their penalty system isn’t operated by humans it’s operated by algorithms. No one checks, skims or reads them and there is no appeal process. They system just push it through. If someone reaches a threshold, they get an automated penalty.

Additionally, you can be reported for ambiguous words including but not limited to bastard, even though bastard sword is the name of an item in many games. We aren’t playing Disney fun land, we’re playing a cutting edge game which, has a maturity filter. It should not be possible in 2019 to be penalized for a word blocked in a filter. In fact, if someone calls you a bad word you might have done something wrong, and there is merit for dialogue and even if that game won’t be a win, that dialogue is invaluable in improving the community’s skill as a whole. I will actually report and whisper people after games if they are so bad I would never want them on my team and I’ll tell them what they did. It’s incredibly annoying to lose a game because a Lunara or Tychus doesn’t take spell armor vs Kael’thas with Pyroblast on their lvl 13 talent. Words simply cannot express how bone headed a mistake that is in 2019 and thankfully my mmr is high enough that I usually don’t get such people but they need to know and it’s not ok if they get offended, especially if I’m constructive and concise about it.

I’ve spoken with numerous people who get silenced and now they don’t even feel like talking which is a cruel shame. The reporting system shouldn’t, but does end communication resulting in many games simply being silent. What is the point of any communication systems in Blizzard games if people who communicate are simply cut off.

Finally, when someone does receive an in game penalty, they never know what it is about. I have spoken with people who have various penalties and they always have no clue why they’re in trouble. Now granted, some people it’s obvious but others there is so much gray area and this is the problem with Blizzard’s system. Blizzard’s system doesn’t care about mitigating circumstances, it only cares about quantity. It also doesn’t care about the reporter, which is part of the problem. If a toxic person instigates trouble in game through poor performance, attitude, or behavior, the system doesn’t care about that. An innocent person who is a pillar of the community can get falsely reported and penalized under the system. This is one of the reasons Blizzard’s reporting feature is so grossly ineffective and results in so many false positives.

I wasn’t always a skilled gamer and I don’t pretend to be the best but I’m far from a scrub and the only way I improved or learned to recognize my errors is because vocal gamers, even if abrasively, informed me of their dissatisfaction and I’m a better player and person today because of it. Blizzard has always struggled as a company when it comes to rule enforcement and this is just another example but they don’t have to be. The time I spent with League of Legends and their tribunal was phenomenal and my tribunal record wasn’t flawless, I only had about 70-80% accuracy and on the cases I didn’t agree with the majority, many of them I was firm that I didn’t care what the majority thought, because in many of those instances it was a fight breaking out on both sides, both parties were wrong, and i disagreed with a penalty because there wasn’t an option to penalize BOTH people. I wish Blizzard had a tribunal system, and I wish I could pass judgments on anyone in a penalty case, not just the person the case was generated for, but up to all 5 people on a team.

If Blizzard wants to pave the way for a better, ethical gaming environment, that is how you do it. I would gladly spend an hour a day again reviewing cases if it meant I could judge everyone and that’s how you fix the reporting system. Because once everyone realizes I can review their performance in a game and penalize, the community would shape up real quick because ANYONE getting in trouble in a game you played, meant you could be at risk to. You’ll see behavior clear up real quick, but first the community has to know Blizzard actually cares, and that there is always a chance they are being watched.

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the last line is pretty ominous and big brothery, but i agree with most of the points you make. Someone instigating shouldnt be free from penalty.

I would bet money no real human being actually listens to voice chat reports and analyzes voice files for bad words.

That report option is there just for appearances, like that pedestrian button at traffic lights that doesn’t really do anything but makes you feel useful.

Text chat reports are the only ones that work (and can be appealed if you feel unfairly silenced).

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That’s the key. You don’t need to be abrasive. There are some rare people who won’t like anything you say.

Honestly, while the general tone of your post has some things I can get behind… stuff like how you talk about a bastard sword/bastard. There is nothing in this game that is called a bastard sword (I have no idea if any of the swords a character use would fit the definition of a bastard sword, but there is no need to use that descriptor).

Oh, and throw in the false claims (I just got an email a while back about non-participation (which, if it is based on since I started playing, seems reasonable, i’ve probably deserved it a dozen or two dozen times over the years)) about non-participation not being checked or reported for at all.

sad really.

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Oh and throw in the false claims participation about non participation not being checked or reported for at all. sad really

What did you mean by this?

The OP claims some reports are ignored completely. They are wrong.

I want to receive a message when action is taken against a player that I reported. It does not need to say who or when, and it can even come a week later… Just want some assurance that the report button was not for show.

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They used to send out these messages at least a year or so ago.

If they did, I never got one. Possibly because no one I reported ever was reported enough for there to be action. But that seems doubtful, surely one of the people I reported for a few years got banned/acted against at some point!

I’ve got a lot of Emails from the HotS team, but only one was related to reports, and it was related to me having been reported enough for afk/non-participation to get a warning email.

I have no idea how I got the second one, unless it was based on all the games I’ve played since beta.

Wasnt that just for Overwatch?

No, I received one for HOTS, about someone I had reported for AFK. Of course they didn’t say who, or anything, just that action had been taken.

odd, i never get them… I report a TON of toxic, afk, and abusive chat players weekly…

I only ever got the one, I think it was at least a year and a half ago. I only report people who AKF on purpose or intentionally die, so it had to be for one or the other.

Void if you report to many people the system stops recording your stuff and deposits them in the dumpster. You’re part of the problem because you report to often but also highlights some of the flaws with the system. Reports that should be valid aren’t being validated which also inhibits penalties from going out.

My reports are valid. I play easily 10-25 games daily and run into all kidna of salty throws in QM and ranked. I make sure to ALWAYS report them and unlike many others I do not say anything when I do.

If the community was not full of degenerates, leavers and afkers then I would not need to report player(s) every 2-5 matches.

That said I never waste time reporting people for lame picks or just under preforming. I don’t expect everyone to preform at a pro level but it is not too hard to sniff out the BS, and garbage within this game.

So how am I part of the problem? The people give theses people free passes are only contributing to it. I follow the rules and play fairly so I have NO mercy or even a drop of sympathy to anyone that does any less. This also holds true for the enemy team as well…

Yes I reported that DIablo that was flipping and pushing my teams siege minions into cannons on “Towers of Doom” so his team could lose faster.

I’ve received an email warning ban about a year or so. It happened so quick, that everyone was being reported and I was reported like with in a few weeks less than 20 matches. everyone was reporting at each other for bad game play, afk, feeding, toxic, persona stats, in etc… it just never ends at the time.
After a few weeks I stopped playing for a year and it seems nothing has changed, but the ratio of people who still plays.

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Sjw corporate Blizzard don’t care about us peasants.

reporting system in heroes of the sinking ship? is there even someone checking out the reports? you just can abuse that crap and ban whoever you want lmao nothing works in this game feeders can feed freely without getting punished and afkers will do the same too they only punish you if “you tell someone to stop being bad at the game and play with the team” cause that’s a bad thing to do! but when it comes to feeding and afking to ruin games that’s fine by them. there’s no hope in this they’re destroying their own game by their own stinking hands who cares lol

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They don’t care, or don’t have the resources to justify caring about it. I had a friend who would get silenced often, he is very hardcore and would play many HL games in a day.

He would report those who dying or throwing on purpose, many of these people were around for years, things like 20 deaths a game, no hero damage etc., terrible figures and negative win-rates that any algorithm should have picked up on. These people were never punished and are still playing doing the same thing.

My friend who would ask them not to feed (but at least in my presence) never swore or abused them, but would get silenced frequently. He simply switched off chat and has never been silenced again. But those serial trolls continue to ruin games unpunished.

they have the “resources” they’re just greedy company who prefer money over everything else. why you don’t see pro player’s playing the game anymore if it’s actually good? because it’s not. now MOST of the player base are that type of players who just play to troll games feed or just don’t care at all about it as it’s a crappy game with devs that probably smoking some type of crap that damaged their brains to the point of doing all the terrible decisions and ruining the game.

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