Murky and other small heroes should not give 25 meat. 5 or 10 makes more sense.
Just had a game where the butcher only killed me once as murky…but the rest of my team gave him 225 meat, next thing I know I die right after his EQ combo
or you could remove him from qm, he makes the game sad thankz <3
Butcher only gets 20 meat per hero and 10 after completing the quest.
Before asking for nerfs or the removal (Nerf or remove the butcher) of a hero it would be a good thing to at least know what you’re talking about.
Even if certain heroes gave less meat how is that gonna help when the rest of the team feeds him? Like you you said you only died once, so Murky giving less meat wouldn’t have changed a thing in your own scenario.
He is balanced so why remove him. Yes he is a qm stomper casue of how qm is nowdays but try and pick him in SL were people have a chance to draft a team againts him.
If Murky struggles against The Butcher, then the player sucks. Butcher don’t need a nerf. It’s an l2p issue.
Even in QM I wouldn’t fear The Butcher as Murky tho. 
There is no reason Murky should ever die to The Butcher. Safety Bubble shuts down his charge, and Slime with Black Lagoon will prevent him from ever getting close enough to AA.
Sometimes you piss them off enough that they drop a Lamb to the Slaughter on you, and you’ll die to that… but like, that’s still a win in my book. One ult for an 8 second respawn.
That reminds me I saw a Butcher who did that.
as vikings im more afraid of my team then the enemy butcher
You afraid of your team feeding Butcher to the point he can kill TLV?
Same.
I don’t think Murky is the problem here. Considering how easy it is for Murky to avoid getting hit by Butcher’s telegraphed stun. Getting less meat when you do kill him wouldn’t be fair.
Butcher’s overall win rate in QM seems fine. Fenix and Kerrigan win way more than he does.
Play Qhira and gank him or counter engage him constantly. Problemo solved
Or revive old Tassadar, who countered Butcher to the ground KekL
gotta love it when I see 3 enemy kills in the first 45 seconds of BHB…
Bubble literally cancels charge and brand, what
Can’t tell if OP is new or not so I’ll cut the beans.
Murky can feed hard sure that is pretty true, but also murky can still dominate against a Butcher comp.
Simply don’t engage, just soak the lane, and rotate frequently, Butcher may be looking for you but he cannot really kill you at all with Safety Bubble, Murky becomes pretty good against him once he get Octo Grab, bait his charge or just jump on him with 3 seconds stun should be enough to finish him off with follow ups.
Did we need another thread about this?
Forums is an endless circle of things, what are getting discussed all over again.
HYYYAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
Highly doubt this after 10 lol
Every time I’ve had a teammate draft Butcher to “counter” Murky or TLV we end up losing hard.
And one time we fed the enemy’s Butch 200 stacks before even the 4 minute mark, but they never took full advantage of that and we won the late game fights where it matters.
He’s an aggressive hero that punishes people with bad positioning, 80% of his hero identity is wrapped up in Slaughterhouse.
tl;dr Butch doesn’t need nerfs.
Players being bad allowing a hero to dominate as he is supposed to is no reason whatsoever to nerf that hero.