On individual lvl, HeroesProfile is really off, especually since I never upload there.
Also if I’d be the dunning-kruger here, I’d be stuck in the lower ranks claiming to be much better. But I’m not since I simply proved it and climbed (solo).
But we can ignore this and focus on an actual conversation. Like I had this question:
Sidenote: what I meant by “lw not iconic” that it’s not part of his WoW kit iirc. But MC is.
Just to clarify, the reason I was angry at OP was because their reasoning for changing Rag’s trait for lava wave just boiled down to “lava wave better”.
I read the original rework concept made by Murray, and it listed more reasons, can share here if interested.
I personally wouldn’t change the trait, considering it defines Ragnaros, as well as being a formerly unique concept to hots (damn you c’thulu).
Only if you don’t upload it regularly, but otherwise it does it job quite fine on this matter. I checked other master players as lucifer, Narha or ShiaLebough and their stats seems very promising on hp. You just can’t admit that you’re proven wrong. You’re most likely another boosted master player.
Claim, nothing else.
Well it’s you have started this by trying to disqualify my arguements with your personal attacks and now you try to switch the topic back. Amusing.
My builds differ, but I usually go E build but with the regen+armor from Globes at 4.
I find this the best from his builds for actual fighting.
GL climbing!
Everyone should play what makes them win. Sometimes ppl win more with “weaker” tools or lose more with “stronger” ones.
I personally think you’d win even more with LW, because below Diamond, it’s easy to punish ppl with macro pressure.
And even at high ranks, LW gets a lot of xp and removes a lane from your team.
Enemy got a camp before obj to get an advantage? LW.
You got the obj and want a super hard push on one lane? LW.
You got the obj and want to push on two lanes? LW.
Split the enemy? LW.
Get a lvl fast(er)? LW.
But SS is still nice, especially after its buffs (which is telling when we compare the two Heroics).
Also SS is often denied by the enemy abilities. But insane instakill potential.
How can I be boosted if I reached Masters multiple seasons solo?
Whelp, I started as a noob and I played years with a horrible old pc with bad net connection (wifi). My overall stats are kind affected by this.
I tried to be non-offensive, but even that was not to discredit your argument.
It wasn’t really an argument, I said I won games thanks to LW (the more popular and higjer winrate Heroic) in Diamond+ and you said that I didn’t, baselessly.
I dont know how to do those quote boxes, but you don’t take slow on 4 with E build?
Back when I was a newb to rag (4 or 5 years ago) I constantly took the armor on 4 because it was part of the Icy Veins build guide, I only recently (2 or 3 months ago) started picking it again.
I do agree that everyone should use what enables them to win the most, I used to be a SS extremist, but I’ve grown used to the idea that both ults have their place. Nevertheless I’ve been teaching newer rags to consider taking SS as well, so that they don’t just always default to lava wave.
I have to dip the thread for now, but as a final note:Nothing is as satisfying as popping multiple people from a HCD MC with smash on 20. The amount of dopamine this event releases is unheard of ^^.
How other boosted master players and that you did it solo is just a claim you made, but you can’t prove it.
Everyone started as a “noob” not only you. And that you try to excuse your stats proves that you are wrong.
Liar, because everyone knows that if someone mentioned his rank to disqualify others he usually use it as an arguement and by that it’s always “offensive”. Just because you said “no offence” doesn’t really mean much.
First it’s still a claim and second it doesn’t prove your point that your gameknowledge is way above me. I played with a friend, who also achieved diamond 1 in HL or played with some masters and based on my experience on that their “game experience” isn’t much higher than mine. It seems you’re overstimating yourself.
Yes, but after you played the “I have more knowledge than you”-trapcard without being substancial against Madkiller.
In fact just because you have 60% winrate with mostly LW doesn’t mean it’s op and you know it. Individual performance for balance is meaningless otherwise we could nerf every hero Narha or Fan plays, because can break the meta with any hero, even The Butcher. Reworks like D.Va wouldn’t be needed, because there are players, who can play the old ones well and still this reworks were nice and indeed kinda needed.
I didn’t use my rank against Madkiller.
Now I’m not talking about LW being op or not.
So dunno why you bring these up?
I also never used my stats about the LW argument, I used HeroesProfile.
And you saying that I didn’t win games -which I played, not you- because I picked the Heroic that is played 4 times as often as SS while having 7%+ winrate, is by using global stats is kinda weird.
I didn’t said you don’t win games with LW, but I said you don’t win games just because of LW, but because of your team. That’s a difference. Saying that LW won you the game is just ignorant, sorry. Otherwise you should have a 100% winrate with it, but you haven’t…
Yeah sure you haven’t made an arguement using your stats.
Edit:
Oops, I see you listed it in your disclaimer in the pictures, ok, but still it doesn’t prove that your knowledge is far greater.
But has a problem with mine that is btw not an argument? #SillyFaceEmoji, lol.
You aren’t as sharp as you think. There is a reason many ignore your posts.
LW (so Rag not having a teamfight ult) wins 7% more, so there are games that are won due to LW.
There are always multiple factors for a win or loss, so not sure what you wanted to prove then
But me saying that LW is still the better Heroic even at high ranks to a comment that claims otherwise is correct.
Me adding my personal stats is just another layer of context.
Well he said more than he is a level 117 main rag, didn’t he?
Another ad hominem, congratulations.
The winrate is higher, but also the sample size for LW, because it’s more popular and it’s overall easier. And only 7% while having a lot more games than S.S. … I wouldn’t count on that.
It only proves that even in high ranks makro is more relevant than mikro. S.S. makes you dependend on your team, while LW makes you independend. Being depended tends to be always bad, even in higher leagues as it seems. I wouldn’t be surprised that S.S. would be only better in CCL or any other tourney environment, where you have a coordinated team.
S.S. is probably worse for the same reason Medivh sucks winrate-wise.
You know, the more niche (less picked) something is, the more higher its winrate should be on paper, because it’s picked with confidance, by experienced hands, into situations it should shine in.
Unlike generalist picks that spammed by good and bad together.
So if a Heroic is 4x as popular while also having a significant winrate advantage…
About SS and LW? Nothing really. Just that LW is bad at high ranks. Which he changed after our conversation. They were really openminded and a nice someone to discuss the game with.
I mentioned my stats to him cuz he started with “it’s importamt so you know wjere I came from”.
Yes. It’s the “you can win your battles but still lose the war” case.
I disagree. Imo it’s because there are no real LW counters. While SS can be missed and countered/denied on hit.
And ppl underestimate how strong it is to remove a lane only for your allies for a time. That asymetric pressure-change is a big thing.
And I personally feel that this partically true, because we both know that LW is A) easier and B) less dependend. S.S. is a skillshot and depends on coordination.
Why does Medivh sucks through all ranks winrate-wise? I would say for the same reason why S.S. sucks, because both needs more coordination and it’s not hard to think that LW is more successful, because compared to SS it’s a no-brainer.
Vikings are we a joke to you? Basically any great split-pusher can counter LW. At least my experience tells me that LW don’t help you if you are already winning, but it helps you if you are behind.