Quick Match: Stop matching solo queue players against teams!

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Dear Dingus HotS developers,

Get rid of group queue in quick match! Players have just been cheesing this mode for nearly a decade as groups vs the solo queue players for cheap assed victories that take no effort and are EXTREMELY frustrating for the normal solo queue players. It should have been designed as solo queue only in quick match and you damn well know it!!

I don’t understand how you can ignore this after so many years. It’s completely unfair for solo queue players to play against coordinated (or even uncoordinated) groups of players.

You are all piles of crap for continuing to allow this kind of match exploitation!

Here are some of the combinations I’ve been getting vs grouped quick match players:

  • Junkrat, Fenix, Yrel, Nova, Abathur (no healer needed for this cheese)
  • Deathwing, Zeratul, Butcher, Zul’jin, Nazeebo
  • Anub’arak, Orphea, Kharazim, Probius, Deathwing
  • Junkrat, Tassadar, Mephisto, Xul, Tracer
  • Valeera (a Jun acolyte named ‘Junecho’ lul), Gul’dan, Imperius, Li-Ming, Anduin

In most cases, they didn’t need a healer at all b/c they were coordinated group. You devleopers need to do away with this garage in Quick Match and it needs to happen NOW!

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When you ask so politely, I’m sure the one Dev who takes care of Hots will rush to remedy the situation ASAP.

You have to know the reason(s) for why this is so? I agree with you that when Hots was in its prime, they should have addressed this issue. Now they simply can’t, many servers like ANZ/SEA/Brazil are functionally dead, except for QM.

Even then, in off-peak times, there are not enough players to form balanced matches. So it would be detrimental to add a rule forcing 5 stacks only vs 5 stacks, even on the US or EU servers. Those 5 stacks would then never find games, and they would probably then quit Hots too, just adding to the problem.

If this was even possible, what about 4 stacks? Would you want to vs a four stack as a solo player? If it were to match different size groups vs the same sized groups, matches would never be formed and if they were, heavy MMR averaging would need to be employed, which would just make match quality even worse.

I don’t blame you for feeling frustrated, I too have been stomped by 5 stacks and it’s not fun. However, very little can be done unless Hots is revived and enough players return, or it picks up new players.

They could tinker around a little to more closely match some roles, but QM isn’t really supposed to do drafting for players. As Hots is a team focused game, you’re better to just group with friends if you can, otherwise it can be a very frustrating experience.

*To clarify, I mostly play Hots solo these days, so I have sympathy for where you’re coming from with this post, but unless fortunes change dramatically for Hots, I adopt the attitude of simply enjoying Hots while I can.

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They obviously shouldve ditched unranked, seeing as it was almost completely ignored by the playerbase and have solo QM and group QM.
You would then also have Solo Rank and Group Rank modes. That immediatelly removes all of the issues with all solo vs groups.
We had a good thing going with old ranked mode and QM has always been exceptionally easy to abuse to win more than you would in a fair draft style matchups.

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Ideally we would have enough players to where the matchmaker would have no problems putting groups up against groups and solo players against solo players.

Sadly even in the games heyday people found the matchmaker too slow whenever they implemented more strict matchmaking rule for Quick Match

While I personally really liked Unranked I can’t help but agree that it would’ve been better for the game if it was removed.
Though I do wonder what the game would’ve looked like if Unranked had been the “default” PvP mode and quickmatch was limited to vs ai.

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Upvoted due to the use of the word dingus

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Because the win rate of groups vs split players is around 51%-52%.

And note that groups are alway matched against other groups, unless the game can’t find any.

If you don’t believe this, group with 4 other players and see if you win all your games.

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I can vouch for this. I normally solo or duo but the odd time ive been in a 4 or 5 stack you do get matched vs other 4 or 5 stacks.

Yes matchmaker isn’t perfect, out of curiosity can anybody name any game with a near perfect matchmaker?

Part of the problem is people exploiting the match maker to end up with an advantage but hots is just being preserved not actively developed so it’s not going to be fixed.

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sure, but they get a whole different genre: dating sim :shushing_face:

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Online chess. chess.com

Also, Tic, Tac, Toe ,and Connect Four

NOT near perfect.

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And then get a flood of complaints.

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just played against a team of players who had the following:

Valla (a sweaty Valla), Artanis, Li-Ming, Deckard Cain, Brightwing

This was just friggin evil. Just like the Developers who continue to allow players to join up as a team to cheese Quick Match. Get rid of it Blizzard!! You’re not doing your jobs for fairness in esports competition, even if it is just casual competition. It should still be a fair match.

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A contradiction, don’t you think?

QM is meant to be and is the casual mode. I’ll give you this, I’ve never seen someone compare the QM experience to the HGC.

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(tries to not look like the Deathwing who uses the Zeratul as my sniper scope to guide my landings like a homing missile)

Your honor I plead the 5th (no guilty looks no sussy looks…)

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Not exactly an abusive comp. I don’t see the problem.

But how could they possibly fix this?

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his team didn’t have any heroes; it was 5 vs 0 and they were clearly forced to lose :open_mouth:

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Yeah. I can see how it can be hard to win with only minions :frowning:

Surrender button when?!!

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go soak, bud it’s your win condition

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5 years I try to write what you wrote: they DON"T want, they want unfair matches. They are corrupted folks.

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