QM Comp Match Ups

Do you have any suggestions how to fix this issue

I stated it if you read.

My suggestion was to not stack single target AA all on one side and aoe push on the other side.

Especially on a map known for push being as strong or stronger than the objective.

usually when people experience something and question it in a public forum, it’s meant to spark a discussion, not just be “i think this and that’s all i have to say.”

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I ve probably missed it and so far i am enjoying the discusion

this is true.

if you want to discuss than do. if you do not find it interesting, why are you posting on it

it was in the OP.

Is that why i cant see you online anymore ?! Its been a while lol for some reason i though you didnt wanted to play with me anymore or something xD

After reading the thread in detail i would like to tell something.Your suggestion seems good.It would stop some not all complaints about hero comps being unfair.It would overall make wuick match a bit more fair.But you are presenting it as a easy change but it is much harder than that.

Which heroes would be swaped for which heroes?Aa for aa and that or aoe for aoe and so on.
The second thing is what if the original comp is like the one you mentioned but zul and valla are in the party but you change zul for azmodan and what now i ask.
The thrid thing is the mmr.What if the person who was playing zul had higher mmr then the player who played azmo.It would also somehow make matches unbalancing coz of the mmr gap

Overall the change on first is good and would fix some things like unfair comps for example.But would require much work in order to work.And btw can you post screenchots of the other games where you saw this happen.I would like to see it.

i think you misunderstand. i’m trying to say that just throwing your thoughts out there and then refusing to engage anyone who doesn’t agree seems a little antithetical to discussion. q: a discussion isn’t just a bunch of people going “huh, none of us have any idea whether that’s true or not, but it sure is interesting!” imo it involves a bit of “hmm, here are my thoughts about your thoughts. what do you (or anyone else reading) think about that?” and, usually, evidence to back things up

me? i think you’ve made far too many assumptions about how the game works, without even bothering to look into it. you assume singles can’t possibly be matched against grouped players, even though one of the reasons for no longer showing enemy groups was that folks had a habit of giving up in matches that involved un-mirrored group sizes (patch notes). you assume that because the game mirrors certain roles & subroles (“Why do you think you do not get 5 tanks vs 5 healers or 5 dps versus 5 tanks etc.”), it must also try to mirror minutia like waveclear and number of skillshots—even though hoku provided examples that showed otherwise. you assume that because you’ve been sort of unlucky lately, the matchmaker must be creating unequal matchups on purpose (“The QM algorithm obviously grouped a single target direct damage team up against a skill shot oriented damage team.“)

your observation is built on a mountain of guesswork, man

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I mean I engaged everyone. I went on with Hok for 40 posts so…

You have to make assumptions on how the game works because you do not have access to how it works. You saying you do not think there is tagging involved in QM is an assumption. I would say a mislead assumption because we know they can do it and have done it in the past. They have been playing with how restrictive QM is since beta.

I mean HotSlogs although not officially part of blizzard, has a decent set of groupings outside of the melee, ranged, tank, etc.

Utility, siege, sustained, burst, ambush, support, healer, bruiser, tank

No its not.

Its built on a mountain of 4000+ QM only HotS games since beta and having seen the ebb and flow of how the algorithm has worked from a player stand point.

It is true that the last week COULD just be a statistical anomaly, but its also possible it isnt. Neither one of us can say unless we are devs.

Just what I said: a potatoe case…

Sorry you do not understand the game and can not see how advantageous their comp was to mine (especially on that map) and how just one swap could solve it.

Maybe the driver of you wanting to be insulting is because you get frustrated when you do not understand things and want to lash out.

Its not an uncommon psychological trait that some do not ever grow out of.

This thread is a disaster.

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i sent you a friend request :+1: we can be friends again :smiley: lol

Blizzard doesn’t care about this and even less people in the forums. They’ve said it in the past that they won’t fix QM. No wonder they can’t get new to people to play the game. It’s their game after all, it was in their hands to make this game a success but they were too stubborn to make the necessary changes.

The thing this thread was about that most people misunderstood and got into a tizzy instead of actually reading what I wrote, was putting it out that I felt like this was happening lately out of the ordinary. I was getting into a game and it seemed like a simple shift in composition within the game would fix it.

If people dont see this more recently then they could of said no, its just me.

I get that.

It wasnt about me or you proving who is right or wrong. It was just feels. If you dont feel that way say no, or if it gets you into a tizzy avoid the post.

Its just absurd how some people get if you mention “comp” and “qm” and go on a tirade that ultimately is an attempt to ego feed to feel important or “smarter” than you.

Internet is like that though. People have the misconception that everyone cares what people think or dont think about them on the internet. Heck, I barely care about that with IRL people. Im too old for that.

That game where I get the most kill on my potatoe team… With Tyrael trait!!!

You cared enough to make a thread and attack people telling you to just go to a Draft mode if you want a Draft. If you’re okay with your team being assembled on the fly then QM is good, if you don’t like dealing with bad comps then just stick to draft.

You remind me of those guys who get mad because someone didn’t pick who they want in brawl. Sure, I laugh at people who take Vikings, but it’s brawl. If you want stakes in your mode-- and therefore for people to care apparently as much as you do seeing as you made a whole bloody thread about it-- then play a mode with stakes in it.

Why, God, why, create an entire thread predicated on your opinion and then backpedal at Mach Disappointment, saying “oh I don’t care about opinions?”
What was the point of the thread at all, and why isn’t “play draft” a valid answer? Might as well complain because the skill ceiling on AI is very low, or something.

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No.

Pretty sure I never attacked anyone. Except that first dude who was obviously trying is hardest to be a angry troll.

again. just another dude avoiding the thread and attacking me personally.

dime a dozen

“I want draft terms but I’m not gonna play a draft mode.”

It’s not attacking if you make kind of a public display of yourself, guy. Why insist on playing QM if it doesn’t meet your preferences? Why insist the mode need change if the vastly easier and more sensible option is switching to a mode that does, in fact, reflect your preferences?

Quick match is a pick-up group and comp being thrown into a game. The queue is quick, not thorough and balanced. Thorough balance requires things that a quick queue (hence quick match) exempts by virtue of being quick. That’s what the mode is for, pick up and go, play against players. It’s basically vs AI, but with nominally higher stakes.

Why you insist on playing the mode when that clearly works so little for you that your thread hit 100 replies is so far and beyond me.
Once more, don’t sell us that you “don’t care” when you clearly, evidently, demonstrably do, enough so to make a whole thread about it.

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I’m certain that those people in charge of balancing the game has all the necessary data and are much more qualified to decide which changes to make than you.

Also, why have I never seen anyone making these complaints ever care to include the replay for the match?

Very well said indeed. Starting with you playing more tank/healer. Instead of instant locking assassins. I’m sure people would appreciate your contribution very much.