PTR updated again, removing lots of Heroes from ARAM 2%

There’s been two updates to the PTR since it started, one happened in the past few hours, and one happened a couple of days ago. Starting with undocumented fixes, then changes in the one a couple of days ago, and then the most recent patch:

Undocumented:

  • Fixed an issue causing Diablo’s Attacks and Rexxar’s Melee Attacks to not consume charge-based Evasion effects(Upstage on Qhira, Dodge on Genji). This was an issue introduced last patch, where those effects were reworked
  • Fixed an issue causing Tyrael’s Law and Order to not apply its damage bonus
  • Updating several tooltips to remove whitespace and improve consistency, as an example, rooted vs Rooted, and 6 Seconds vs 6 seconds for the cooldown display in tooltips

September 28 Patch:

  • Fixed an issue with Earth Ally’s new duration display
  • Fixed an issue causing Raynor’s Banshee to not be able to be pulled by Stitches’ Hook
  • Fixed an issue causing Tassadar’s Arc Discharge to activate while on cooldown, and activate when not on cooldown(yes, there was two ways this could happen)
  • Fixed an issue causing Gall’s Will of Gall to grant no benefit
  • Fixed an issue causing Rehgar’s Lunge FX to be visible in the fog of war
  • Fixed an issue causing Kel’Thuzad’s Death and Decay channel to be visible in the fog of war
  • Added a duration indicator to Raynor’s Inspire

Hours ago:

  • Removed from same hero ARAM: Artanis, Butcher, Valla, Lunara, Falstad, Greymane, Illidan(sad), Kael’thas, Kerrigan, Raynor, Thrall, Tychus, Li-Ming, Zeratul, Alarak, Cassia, Genji, Gul’dan, Hogger, Imperius, Junkrat, Kel’Thuzad, Maiev, Mephisto, Orphea, Tracer, Whitemane, Zarya, Zul’jin
  • Added to same hero ARAM: Sgt. Hammer
  • Fixed an issue causing Butcher’s Invigoration to not activate if it hit and killed one hero
  • Fixed an issue with Shadow Charge and Overpower(Diablo)
  • Fixed an issue with Rehgar’s Electric Charge

Here are the remaining ARAM Heroes: Sonya, Jaina, Leoric, Murky, Sgt. Hammer, Sylvanas, Nazeebo, Zagara, Fenix and Ragnaros.

They also might have reduced the chance of it happening to 0.5%

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Thought that was intended.

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with the match pool gutted so much, they may as well have made the “opt in” checkmark then or outright removed it.

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They might as well remove mirror at that point honestly.

But I think they went with stats of which mirrors dragged on the most. (Though this doesn’t explain Hammer still being there.)

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I had a good rating on reddit for suggesting Stitches in ASAM.
We won’t have Pull Party back, but at least give us the hook madness.
There’re other heroes that would fit nicely, at least better than freaking Stg. Hammer.

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I guess the gimmick is to still try to keep it somewhat novel, though I think if it’s ‘too rare’ then people will still leave regardless of the matchup so they don’t have to bother at all.

All hammer and leoric is a ‘unique’ gimmic for aram, so they may as well dump jaina, syvl, zeebo, zag, fenix and rag in favor of asam only being banned hero picks: 2 cho’gal and an abathur mirror :person_shrugging:

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The people that enjoy all the same hero are a very small percentage of people. It needs to be removed.

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Uninstalls

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Source: Trust me bro. No in all seriously if you gonna claim that then atleast show some data that backs your claim up. Just because you are always leaving your games and forcing everyone els to do the same then it does not mean those who like it is in the minority.

Maybe you dont know the domino effect your behavior is causing to actually know anything you talk about. Once you leave the game or tell others to do the same then those who actually want to play it now have to play 2 vs 5 or get throwed in leaver que becasue of you.

You think its fair to punish other players who want to play it just becasue you dont want to ? Why should other people being forced to play outnumbered for 15 min just becasue you cant accept how ARAM is now ?

You are playing a team game. Then act like it or stick to AI games.

what?!
WHAT?!
my one chance squandered by fickle crybabies and now I don’t get it at all!?

someone’s gonna get it, im not sure who yet but someones gonna get it

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Without access to their internal statistics, I’m just guessing mirrors with those heroes had such a high abandon/AFK rate (and thus leading to even more people getting pissed off and leaving HotS) they just disabled them altogether from the 5v5 mirror.

What I don’t understand is why they added Hammer in it at the expense of all those normal heroes listed. How on Earth is fighting 5 long range artillery heroes more fun than a full Artanis or Sonya battle? :smiley:

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I still think they’re giving too much thought to something which a a lot of players fundamentally dislike. Were I really interested in this I wouldn’t pay much attention to cherry picking heroes, excluding talents or the half hour long circus I am about to queue for. When one team wins, they’ve proven that they understand the hero mechanics much better.

It’s like when I’m queueing for QM, I expect that I will be the only Kael in the game and mirror games rob me of that experience by forcing me to play something I do not wish for.

All the feedback they need can be summed by the star rating system after a mirror match and somehow I can’t imagine that is anywhere close to 2/5, if not for gameplay reasons then for toxicity and players abandoning the game. From personal experience, not even third of these maps reach score screen without some kind of an incident or with 10 fully active players.

By now it is obvious to everyone that all this votes are going directly into the garbage bin. Anyone reasonable with half a brain that actually cares for the game would have turned the page on this circus or at least have made it an opt-in.

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It make no sense but in the end they only read what the Redditors ask for and they have been begging to get Hammer back.

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I tend to agree. Many of the heroes I enjoyed playing as, ASAM, have been removed. Adding Sgt. Hammer back, and removing a hero like Hogger doesn’t make sense to me, if these changes are to make the mode more fun or less frustrating.

Personal preference, I’d take an all Hogger, all Butcher match any day, over an all Sgt. Hammer.

Well, at least I know where to point the finger of blame in this matter!

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