Orphea damage potential

Idk if she will be op, i just wanted to show my potential damage with what i thought was a realistic quest scaling. skip to 2:40 if you just want to see the combo on azmodan, and earlier for on the target dumbies, showing talents, and arthas 1-2 times.

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Did you get Orphea with the Virtual Ticket or did you buy her? I have the virtual ticket and havent gotten anything, not even the twitch drops, :slightly_frowning_face:

Over 130 stacks is realistic scaling?

Even azmo who focus’s on minion scaling with the best tool to do it get’s on average 300 by level 20 and get’s 2 stacks per, not including hero hits.

130 is like if you were azmo by level 20, you’d have 260 stacks completing your level 1 quest (emphasis on that, level 1, not level 7) by going up to the waves and orbing them.

That’s not realistic stacking at all.

BUT!

For a sustained damage dealer, I’d imagine something similar to guldan at level 20 as well, this fit’s rather well.

She is on the PTR…

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130 is not terrible, it deals huge damage to a wave, assuming i get roughly 5 stacks per wave. lets say she soloes top lane, 2 minutes untill obj, i would say thats roughly maybe uhh 6 waves maybe? 5 x 6 = 30, and remember killing a hero within 1.5 seconds of W is 60 stacks. so maybe she gets a good jump and finishes the other solo laner off and gets the stacks. shes at 90 before obj? idk how well she will stack, but chomp does a LARGE amount of damage to waves, idk if 130 is realistic or not for lvl 20.
she is going to stack similar to azmodan in late game, one shotting waves for 7 stacks each

Isn’t that on the tier with the 2 sec chomp reset or am i thinking of a different tier. I found that to be the best reliable boost to damage overall if so over quest and it just feels good. E quest sounds meh. At 20 I was killing a Stitches in about 6-7 seconds with the build I settled on and that was with screwing up one of my things.

If it’s powerful enough. You would soon see it getting nerf. Personally, I think 60 permanent damage boost for a hero kill is way too much. If it’s only for the next W, it’s fine.

yes it is, this sacrifces a lot of sustain for burst, which may or may not be not worth it. but it is pure aoe, so unlike some big bursts (pyroblast) it can hit all 5 heroes, well see what happens.

It feels super clunky to me without the 2 sec chomp, I can get 5 off in the time a person gets 1 ideally unless I’m playing pretty bad and miss. I personally like to D-E-Q-W-1 in a rapid fire manner for my combos when everything is up and in play which is a ton of damage in about 2 seconds time with some health return :slight_smile:

I did a bunch of testing in vs ai on the ptr (qm there is wonky) against adept yeah you can get a massive quantity of damage but against elite you can see how much harder it is to actually get those stacks. by lvl 20 I would have 90~110 if I got lucky. That just turns chomp into a an aoe with snipe levels of damage(assuming 5 snipe master stacks).
Its decent if the enemy team has squishies you can dive but if they have long range like hammer the E quest is better and the 2 sec Chomp is good vs melee who harass you.

I think its good against more than just melee, I’m not sure going E quest would be worth it in the long run just for hammer. I think you’d have a better time having a draft to enable the dive on to her, she can’t sit in siege if shes under constant threat of death in 2 seconds.

Side note, thats going to be one hell of an ability for fighting over a boss point with. Throw a Maiev or ETC in there and oooof. The feast ult i forgot I deleted that portion of what I was saying lmao.

I think it’s a bit more reasonable to be getting 4, the melee minions are inconsistent, so roughly, sure, 4-5.

Actually no, you can’t account for the other laner, but not only that, waves spawn every 30 seconds, IE, 2 minutes would be 4 waves not including if waves stacked up or was recently cleared. Dehaka knows his essence!

That’s a BIG maybe. But sure, I’ll give that to you, 60 base, just because an orphea will definitely try to finish with chomp.

Not true, even at 130 stacks which is over inflated you don’t 1 shot the entire minion wave. You’d have to, at best setup with the E and then W which may or may not hit the entire wave.

So more reasonably, I’d imagine by level 20 she’d have something like 80.

Does scale indefinitely though, much late.

Yeah I wouldn’t draft her against a hammer but I’m in a QM mindset because that’s all vs AI is. I wouldn’t underestimate the the E quest damage though. It increases all damage not just the eruption so at completion its 400 extra damage in that sweet spot between the wave and eruption. Hammer is super easy to hit that with.
I can’t wait till she goes live so etc loving friend can set up those sweet sweet moshes