Nova just got worse

I love playing nova though this patch with the new exp gloves just made her even worse, I think all stealth heroes for that matter.

Stealth heroes cannot collect exp globes when stealthed.

Now I am not saying, stealth heroes stand invisible and just soak minions when they battle each other, I never do that before that patch. Don’t think any stealth heroes did.

If I am in a 1 on 1 situation, I will now have to come close to the minions to collect exp globes, thus closer to the enemy, thus keep revealing myself, thus more damage to nova.

Now I know this is early day, though I had a match against Nova and we won. I just had a match as nova and we lost.

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Seems like compelling evidence…

:thinking:

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Yeah is that what you got out of this thread. Do you have anything constructive to say about stealth heroes or nova and exp orbs?

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If you’re soaking minions as nova, it means you’ve got range so you can safely attack from a distance and when you’re unstealthed, the globes will travel to you without being in danger.

The only time they affect nova is if you try to afk soak a lane by sitting there in stealth for your gold stickers.

Time to get to work, boy.

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I thought the patch notes said that stealth heroes can still pick up exp globes as long as they are 1.5 range from them, the globes just won’t move towards the player if they remain stealthed.

I don’t see how this makes any difference to Nova players as they never bothered to soak or waveclear in the first place. Maybe now they don’t get accidental XP from being in a bush trying to ambush? I guess the really bad Novas who spent 30 seconds hiding without doing anything might suffer now, the average Nova doesn’t spend enough time in lane to matter.

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in bronze they don’t. in QM they don’t but me as a nova main i do soak with my ult etc.

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You pretty much have to touch the exp globes when stealthed to collect. Nova’s max range basic attack is too far for the gloves to reach her. She needs to go a bit closer to collect.

When I play Nova, I do my best to stay on my side of the minions and stay at max range when I can. I do roam the map to pick off people. Now I have to run through the minions which makes me closer to the enemy, easier to spot and easier to be ganked all for getting a few exp orbs. I am now at high risk which I don’t want to be in.

The other option is to use decoy which can collect orbs but that wastes an ability, mana and cd

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On the other hand, through the lifespan of HotS, decoy has been a waste of an ability and mana anyway. :wink:

More seriously, I think I like the idea of the enemy having to target the decoy to prevent it getting globes.

Why you are picking a single target assassin for wave clear and ep soak I have no idea

Never said I use nova to soak. But there will be times she will need to soak a bit and collect exp orbs but it comes with a hefty price of being closer to the enemy’s side than her side.

Nova’s kit already makes the team’s composition lack waveclear thus less exp soaked.

As I roam with Nova pre-patch, it was easy getting that little bit of exp from after in down times, I can stay on my side. Now it’s a risk as people can easily gank her, if she’s roaming through minions, pre-patch all she gotta do is walk past. Now she gotta run through the minions to collect if stealthed, if not then it reveals her location on the map.

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The patch is working as intended then,
Not sure if you’ve tried playing bruisers or heroes who are meant for the solo lane like them, but before it was painfully easy for any ranged hero just to poke them and never lose xp, now the lane bully can actuall, well bully, a job they are supposed to do but can’t because of how easy it is for ranged heroes to poke from the safety of their towers.

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Can’t you just poke from afar and then pop a clone on the globes to take them?
I believe nova clones can pick xp.
On another note if you picked nova in a non waveclear draft in a draft mode you asked for it.

Yes, but it just a waste of a clone/mana/cd. Picking lvl 4 rapid projection will yeild faster benefits but if you’re wave clearing, you’re unstealth anyways, so you might as well walk a bit forward to get them.

But if you’re roaming and lets say middle has no one and you run past, prob best to pop a clone in the middle of the minion fight then keep running to your destination.

Doesn’t that make it more “exciting”? Having to judge whether to use a cd or not?
This is what melees have to do daily while range could chill kilometers away.
Didn’t ask for it? Neither did i, blame people saying solo laning was too boring while likely playing things like junkrat or whatever residentsleeper type of hero

I would say she broke even a gank forcing some one out of lane is huge with exp changes

Why has no one here mentioned you no longer get XP for wiping minions with her ult, this is a massive change to her viability. Many games I have topped XP thanks to clearing waves with the ult, now without someone being there in person 0 XP is gained. This is a big nerf to an already very weak hero competitively.

Because Nova does a very good job with Precision Strike after level 13/14?
Especially after 20 you can push very hard on especially large maps.

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at least nova can soak with decoy.

The thing is, this is a nerf for ALL ranged assassins. It’s essentially a buff to bruisers and melee assassins.

Yeah the funny thing is now you can literally be behind a wall, plop a clone in the lane where the minions died and bam, instant soak. W t f?