Because people love good discussions. One hero you never love to have on your team.
One rule: you need to be willing to defend your reasoning
I find Illidan bad.
I think the team needs to build around him and that he is too easy countered. He needs a aba to strive. But without him. His dmg is slow and the rest waveclearwise and camp clearing. Meh I rather have any other hero
Tassadar. I played 500+ games on him before the rework. Now I just dread having him on the team in any situation.
Hope they re-rework him as soon as possible.
Dunno whats the point of picking D.Va over literally any other hero.
I never want Kharazim in my team, I don’t like how he needs to aproach the enemy to heal the team. The Healer should stay behind the tanks.
Current Tass is really good.
Probius .
Not because of the difficulty to play it , but rather because of the QoL that needs to happens.
His Z is stopped by any source of damage , even dot which mean if someone uses z while poisoned , it will be instantly nullified and go on an other 30 seconds.
The pylon cd need to be lowered or a second charge ( i would prefer the later )
Photon cannon does NOT prioritise enemy heroes. They seem to have the same priority specs as regular towers .
You cannot select the canon’s targets manually.
Pylons do not have a shield which is annoying as it doesnt go with the basic protoss structure 50% HP/shield gimmick.
Its not that probius is inherently bad , its rhe concept i was actually epecting more of , overall i still love to play probius but i cannot deny many things about it annoys me.
I never want Hammer in my team!
If she is surprised pick and enemies don’t have counters, then you 4 are just slaves of Her Majesty. You exist only to serve Her Majesty while is steamrolling mid all the way to enemy core. You have to make sure you run around and block enemies from reaching Her Majesty all the time while she is doing everything herself including killing enemies because they tried to wound Her Majesty. Heal only Her Majesty, peel only for Her Majesty, if you made a mistake and picked another assassin, than you can go and start cooking a lunch, because Her Majesty doesn’t need you at all!
If enemies have counters then you fork for a sitting duck. You have work harder than slaves in mines, to keep the duck alive. You must use everything you have, every heal, every armor, every shields to save the biggest sitting duck in the game from spending most of the game dead. However, most of the time it just isn’t enough, and enemies annihilate her over and over again.
People who dont know how to TLV
any hero can be bad
Yrel.
She’s either able to clean house without you, or you’re constantly scrambling to pick up the pieces after she gets deleted. Usually it’s the latter. There are just so many better Bruisers than her. Even Imperius, whose winrate is actually slightly lower than Yrel’s, is a lot more fun to play with because he can set up some really awesome plays.
Waiting for DrLogan to come and stop this madnes of a comment!
As someone who loves to play a good variety of heroes, i have to say i find no hero “bad” in that manner, but what strikes the fear in me the most must be when someone picks Probius or TLV, and you check their hero level.
You just know something is not right then.
I think TLV is bad but he’s not really bad but outdated.
I don’t like Garrosh. I think his kit is ok and he is powerful but I just don’t think his kit matches the character. We can agree to disagree on this but this will never sit well with me.
Then there’s Yrel who I dread lvling because her abilities are so clunky.
D.Va.
She’s a character that I WANT to love, but honestly, just can’t. She doesn’t fill the role of a bruiser well, and honestly feels more like a specialist due to revolving so much around her Self destruct, to the point of feeling gimmicky.
D.va, because if I immagine each Hero played at a proper skill level, I find her the most lacking if compared to all other Bruisers.
Auriel.
She’s too conditional for my taste; both the Auriel and the energy provider(s) need to be good and the energy provider preferably needs to be some specific heroes.
Her resurrect is so easily countered too and often ends up just providing the enemy team more experience and is problematic because Aegis tries to prevent your team from losing whereas Resurrect tries to get your team back on their feet.
It is also infuriatingly frustrating when you play ARAM and the Auriel doesn’t use D at all and doesn’t respond at all to chat, so you play an entire ARAM with an Auriel that never touches D.
I think maybe Auriel should get a new level 10 and then Resurrect becomes a level 20 Storm talent.
That or recently-resurrected heroes don’t provide exp.
The point was a hero that no matter if the player plays them well you don’t want to see.
And in this discussion that isn’t relevant.
Personally, I hate seeing Butcher on my team.
I’m very much a team player, but what this probably means is I’m going to have to figure out what in the world Butcher wants, and ensure i’m always sitting inbetween butcher and threats.
But Butcher’s almost all seem to think that they’re the ones who determine an engagement. No. NO. How the !@%@! am I supposed to tank for you/heal you if you charge in ahead of the rest of the team.
Even after the energy change?
I agree with dva and probius
Prob is too squichy for his defensive/set up playstyle
Dva one Q towards the enemy and 60% of my health is gone
I am never thrilled to see Stitches on my team, as he doesn’t offer as much as the other tanks in terms of peels and set up. I mean, I have seen good Stitches players make him work, but it is fairly rare in my experience. He also has a hard time controlling space, which can make it harder on his ranged DPS, as they won’t always have enough room to attack safely.
Leoric. Haven’t played him myself, but his damage is meh, his survivability is ok and the chance of someone feeding with him by accident is very very high!
None 
I’m Tassadar main AFTER his rework and I don’t argee with you. He is not good like he was before, but he became good in other way.
After last patch he got buffs for his most underrated talents, stats. This is good. He still needs some help, but I still was able to play him in his bad state and have 60%+ winrate.
To the topic - KTZ.
All time I play vs KTZ - I lose, but when I play with him - I lose too.
90% KTZ players play bad in my team, so I don’t want to try my luck.
Cough cough He means Nova Cough cough
Because all time I wanted Nova with him, he didn’t let me to pick her. He even doesn’t want to play her for his Golden Chalange.