From experience, the most toxic aba duo is ABA/SAMO hat.
Name a more toxic duo. I’ll wait.
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Abatheur and Zagara, they’re really toxic spreading the Zerg INfection together.
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Aba Illidan. Fite me.
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Aba + Valeera
Aba + Zera
Aba + most of the Melee heroes that can do dmg 
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From experience, the “I’ll wait” wait bravado is counter-intuitive fluff.
If the claimant isn’t going to ‘wait’, then there’s no purpose to the validity of their assertion.
But rather than realize the “obvious” reality that said assertions have to “wait” they’re the sort of people too busy tooting their own horn to pay attention to the “obvious” and instead want to revel in behavior, that ironically, demonstrates a lack of worthwhile observational skills, a lack of experience, a lack of rational conclusions and a lack of patience and sincerity to actually “wait” through replies, refutations, or assertions adverse and any anti-thesis.
And on top of all that fluff on my end, (cuz who’s gonna read/care about the above?)
the assertion is on something being “toxic” which… is a loaded subjective term that doesn’t mean much.
Stitches + aba is more “toxic” as stitches can hook enemies into toxic next clusters and insta-gank enemy heroes. Or gorge drop.
Garrosh, Artanis, and Chen can similarly put enemies into nest clusters, but stitches has the safest combo. All of then are durable and can benefit from the hat too.
Arthas has an aoe slow, strong attacks, and can freeze structures proving to be a powerful hero ganker and pusher that similarly locks down enemies for a monstrosity to also attack, so the end-game duo-hat combo gets really mean.
Illidan has a semi-global, so any hero isolated and revealed by nests can get Hunted and killed pretty quick with a hat-boost.
I could list some other pairs, even some not-hat ones, but without much of what is “toxic” about sam + aba (arguably a redundant pair) you might not agree on it being more “toxic” so… /shrug
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Aba and Illidan, who are also grouped up together. You know, the aba who doesn’t hat anyone else, and the Illidan who doesn’t show up for anything because they think their soaking is justified. There are times when that’s fine, but 3v5 all game is not fine, especially when teammates are making no progress in the lane they are pushing.
Can you tell I’ve had this experience recently?
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Lol, Xenterex. You type a wall to end it with a /shrug.
Not sure if bored or really wanted to talk about this topic. 
You are right, we have nothing to argue here since OP just made a claim without saying why he thinks this.
I’d say, the MOST toxic is Aba/Alarak. Alarak is already so toxic, Aba enhancing him will only make him more toxic.
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Abathur / Murky and specially at 20 GL winning vs that
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if they play abathur and murky, you can win easily, but it requires an intelligent team… you just ignore murky, ignore abathur, take objective and push straight to core with it. they only have 3 heroes early game to fight you with, probably cant stop a good deathball team.
which is pretty rare to find nowadays.
if you do that you’ll clearly lose unfortunately as murky would be painful when you allow him to stack and he’ll just outpush you and his team won’t just give you the object as they can poke plus you need a perfect team comp to play around with a murky/abathur not just pick them in whatever comp.
early game = play safe and ignoring murky early game will be a very terrible mistake with a hard punishment for your team.
Ive always liked aba muradin with bruiser build.
Increased attack speed on Mura with shielding making his already strong staying power ecen stronger.
Its like turning muradin into a better tank thats also an assassin.
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Against no blinds in quick match, Varian and Abathur, after he finishes his high king quest he can mindlessly dive against 4 enemies and kill them off one by one while healing up to half health within a couple AAs.
And gets even more damage from Abathurs spikes & auto attack speed boost (and the carapace boosts at lv16 that slow enemies or increase his movement speed by 40%).
It is so toxic and unfun to play against I almost wanted to leave a few such games. If you were unlucky and didn’t get blinds (worst case, not even stuns) you can’t even stop him from taking a shrine or objective with three or four other players.
But that is just a Quick Match problem that doesn’t exist in Draft.
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Abathur+Eric.
Your team will be livid that you’re sitting on Eric the whole game, while the vikings player does use their two other characters.
Creating the most toxicity.
TBH, it works with any of the vikings, but I figured the squishiest was best.
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I think muradin is veeeeery close, if not the worst. There’s actually nothing you can do against aba-mura, killing him is out of the question, and ignoring him is basically asking for a teamwipe.
Illidan-aba is overrated, it’s good for sure, but there’s better options with far less counters.
Abathur + Chogall + Tracer + Morales is the saltiest of salt
Indeed, just listen to Alarak’s voice lines. You won’t find any other hero that toxic. 
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Exactly!
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Abathur robogazlord at 20 is a sight to behold.
I am surprised no one said abathur qhira.
no im saying you keep 5 man pushing a fort, then a keep, then a core. murky can lane all he wants as he gives up his core. in my example, you are only concerned with early game because you win. let him stack all he wants, he still loses.
CRTL + F + “lili”
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